Forum: Christian Movements/Ministries
06-05-2025, 12:31 AM
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Replies: 91
Views: 6,861
Re: POLL: What is the Greatest Error of WL & LC?
The biggest error of all is the new kind of Trinity that Nee invented in 1948 to make himself untouchable - a FALSE Trinity based only upon Authority and Submission. See Nigel Tomes article here...
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Forum: To God Be The Glory!
01-23-2025, 10:55 AM
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Replies: 7
Views: 2,373
Re: Heart Of The Local Church Problem...
Thank you for this excellent read! The fleshly desire for visibility is contrary to Christ. This explains why Witness Lee was so offended by John So's insistence that "Christ would build His church"...
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Forum: Apologetic discussions
01-18-2025, 04:55 PM
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Replies: 3
Views: 1,111
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Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century
01-10-2025, 01:29 PM
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Replies: 21
Views: 3,892
Re: Ron Kangas- THE BODY IS THE FATHER
Yeah, and LSM took it away once more as well. However we do have the original audio.
Here is a link to the audio recording where Ron Kangas was speaking those words. The really crazy talk begins...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
01-10-2025, 01:01 PM
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Replies: 1,022
Views: 684,249
Re: How Much To Throw Out?
The audio recording where Ron Kangas was speaking those words is this message, beginning at approx 58 minutes.
https://www.blendedbody.com/_cl/_audio/_Lima2007-32/Lima2007m1.mp3
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Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s
12-14-2024, 02:22 PM
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Replies: 3
Views: 2,111
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
12-14-2024, 10:02 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 2,951
Re: InconvenientRuth
FYI: The digital version of John Ingalls' book, (4F) NEWSPAPER ARTICLES APPEAR January 1989 (https://johningalls.com/#/reader/chapter/53), contains a link to the complete LA Times article.
Please...
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Forum: Little Flock/Local Church Spinoffs
08-29-2024, 12:50 PM
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Replies: 39
Views: 18,313
Re: Bill Mallon's Passing
Regarding your question about John Ingalls' activity post LC, this resource (https://www.johningalls.com/#/reader/chapter/73) may provide some answers.
The testimonials posted on the Rose Hills...
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Forum: Extras! Extras! Read All About It!
08-27-2024, 08:19 PM
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Replies: 83
Views: 15,349
Re: Myth Busters LCD Style Program 1
Well, since you asked - let me share with you a first hand account by a (then teenage) woman who got "enjoyed" by Witness Lee's son in 1987:
"During those years of sibling abuse, I was also...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
08-19-2024, 09:09 PM
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Replies: 25
Views: 8,308
Re: Greetings from an LC member!
Welcome back "Trusting"!
Best wishes on your therapy.
As the LC gradually developed into a full blown personality cult, there automatically remained less and less space for anyone who...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
08-19-2024, 05:53 PM
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Replies: 25
Views: 8,308
Re: Greetings from an LC member!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Makes perfect sense to me - you did nothing wrong, neither are you crazy!
How you described your uncertain journey in the LC leads me to believe that you already...
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Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles
08-18-2024, 05:13 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 9,785
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Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles
08-12-2024, 01:07 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 9,785
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Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s
08-01-2024, 10:27 PM
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Replies: 7
Views: 10,916
Re: Church In Hong Kong
Well, to begin with Terry, you can thank Sam Ingalls for loaning his only copy of his Dad's book to me for a couple of years. Then in 2023 somebody put up a pristine copy for sale on Amazon and I...
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Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century
07-29-2024, 04:53 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 2,238
Re: Is The Local Church Movement Dying?
Thanks for the great summary you provided to us Unregistered!
Only two things I would add to it:
First off, Dr. Lily Hsu's book actually has a respected co-author who validated her findings....
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Forum: Ex Church Kids (of Local Church)
07-27-2024, 10:17 PM
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Replies: 1
Views: 2,017
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Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s
07-26-2024, 02:39 AM
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Replies: 7
Views: 10,916
Re: Church In Hong Kong
In addition to the blasphemous speaking by Howard Higashi which took place during the Taipei FTT, the brothers in Hong Kong also reported that Paul Hon gave a bizarre explanation of the New Way's...
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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications
07-25-2024, 01:06 AM
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,197
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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications
07-20-2024, 10:57 PM
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,197
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Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century
07-06-2024, 02:45 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 2,238
Re: Is The Local Church Movement Dying?
From my vantage point the "blended brothers" emerged in a slightly different manner. They banded together for sure, but being already prominent & well known signers of the 1986 pledge of loyalty to...
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Forum: Apologists Speak RE: The Local Church
06-08-2024, 01:12 PM
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Replies: 16
Views: 3,552
Re: Morris Fred on W. Lee and T. A. Sparks
I would propose that there may have been an additional factor of offense which arose between WL and TAS during that 1957 visit.
Aside from the humanly understandable reaction when an outsider,...
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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications
06-07-2024, 02:02 PM
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,197
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Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications
05-13-2024, 10:46 PM
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Replies: 10
Views: 2,197
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Forum: The Local Church in the 21st Century
04-17-2024, 04:26 PM
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Replies: 24
Views: 9,640
Re: Predators in the church
I see an interesting parallel between the predatory ministry of Nee-Lee and that of Mike Bickle - the paradox of inconsistency.
Both of these ministries contain certain healthy teachings which, if...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
04-12-2024, 10:22 PM
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Replies: 12
Views: 1,930
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