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Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-22-2009, 05:46 PM
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Re: Group Think: A Sinister Snare For Elders and Congregations Alike

I was at a Sally Clarkson Wholehearted Mother Conference this weekend and I feel like this quote really applies.

"In the absence of biblical conviction people will go in the way of culture. ...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-07-2009, 05:28 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

I think DJohnson's example was intended to be a metaphorical example! The story shows that the heart of that man (who wasn't a Spirtual giant in the eyes of LC) responding with sensitivity to the...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-06-2009, 07:57 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

There was also physical abuse...arguably perhaps easier to heal from then the emotional damage of destroying the very being of a person.

Also know of accounts of incest and molestation within the...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 02-06-2009, 06:01 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

It makes me vomit to hear the guys beg and plea for Don to write a chapter in a book (that will inevitably be slanted) and yet two ladies recount of abuse is over and over again dismissed and...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-31-2009, 06:22 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

Me again! I just recently have met up with past friends through facebook. Here's one letter of a friend. ... I think that passivity of parents in the LC failed to show the heart of God through His...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-31-2009, 05:49 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

Wow! What a roller coaster! I never in a million years would have imagined Don, that you'd respond with so much anger towards me (seemed like I was reading something from my dad). But even more...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-28-2009, 07:35 PM
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Re: The LCS Factor

Found Him - I'm so glad that your daughter has a mom like you and your husband has you as his wife. Your heart gives me hope! My mom unfortunately is an exact replica of the 'Stepford Wife' and has...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-27-2009, 07:50 PM
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Re: The LCS Factor

In my experience, VIPs as I labeled them previously, which the LC is brilliant at raising up find a way to wiggle closely to those in high power as to find a seat for themselves in the hierarchy. ...
Forum: Various Living Stream Ministry Publications 01-25-2009, 08:31 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 24,651
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Re: Recovery Version

I think it does matter. I keep checking back...wish someone would answer.
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-20-2009, 11:46 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

I'm sorry I haven't officially introduced myself. My dad is a former LC elder. He and HOPE are long time friends (with lapses in communication based merely on distance in residence).

Thanks...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-20-2009, 10:05 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

Thanks HOPE for your explanation. I guess I did assume that you were in leadership based on you speaking at guest local churches. I have other questions but I'll have to think a bit more before I...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 01-20-2009, 06:42 AM
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Re: The LCS Factor

After leaving a system of confused scripture, legalistic focus and egocentric belief of being God's only saving grace....I have issues with believing that an LC elder could healthily step into the...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 09-11-2008, 05:39 AM
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Campus Crusade for Christ

I think its completely off base to compare LC with Campus Crusade. The complete and total focus of the ministry of Campus Crusade is loving, knowing and sharing Jesus. That's it...nothing else and...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 09-05-2008, 01:00 PM
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Ground of Locality

I guess I'm confused...would someone explain this topic to me?! Do some think its wrong to switch it up and go to a different church within the same city!?!? I guess I'm not following... Thanks...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-29-2008, 06:36 PM
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I can totally relate to your words...and until...

I can totally relate to your words...and until very recently I would find myself still in some ways defending it as "not that bad" because of strange loyalty issues!?! Strange! I guess this helps...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-22-2008, 07:09 AM
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I want to say that myself (a 2nd generation LCer)...

I want to say that myself (a 2nd generation LCer) completely agrees with what you are saying Matt. The agenda set and followed for 20+ years by my parents has shaped who they are. I could create an...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-21-2008, 12:43 PM
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The following words in CJ Mahaney's book Humility...

The following words in CJ Mahaney's book Humility True Greatness, support this forum so strongly I believe.

'Without others help to see my self clearly, I'll listen to my own arguments, believe...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-21-2008, 10:07 AM
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God & I vs. Community

Hope - I definitely think the bible instructs both...but my years in the LC was definitely distracting from my relationship with my personal Savior! The source of Hope is Him alone!!!

1 Peter...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-21-2008, 05:38 AM
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Sin

I think this is something that really effected me growing up, not the dating specifically, but the fear of letting children sin. Until we sin, its hard for us to grasp the need we have for a Savior....
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-19-2008, 07:16 PM
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Divorce Rate

I wanted to also bring up marriages that had a dominating husband (elder) and a wife that worked so hard to deny herself completely of self that she ended up just checking out on life altogether. ...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-18-2008, 10:05 AM
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I posted I think on page 7!?!? Look for my name:...

I posted I think on page 7!?!? Look for my name: Process. There was a lot of heavy talk going on so it may have been missed. I was in Dallas as a child for a number of years. I testify that my...
Forum: Spiritual Abuse Titles 08-17-2008, 08:52 PM
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Views: 1,062,876
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Dallas Effected Me!

In April 2008, while watching the news, I heard an interview that I couldn't erase from my mind. This was when the children of an extreme sect of Mormons from a compound in Texas were pulled for a...
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