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Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-25-2011, 05:40 AM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Dalliance with the Devil

That is partly because, despite the writing of some being to everyone (such as the gospels) to some extent, the letters are to the leaders even when the whole congregation is addressed.

But just...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 02:01 PM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

Some quotes that this little passage brings to mind:
Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive! (Sir Walter Scott)

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth....
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 01:41 PM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

This is really a different issue to me than tone. It is about witness. Repeating a version of a story is not a witness. Even repeating it word for word deadpan is not a witness. If you are not a...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 11:25 AM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

Ohio,

I understand you points. And I do not disagree when it comes to Nee. He did not try to weasel. And he was not trying to alter. Just clarify.

But the way he did it does throw the...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-20-2011, 06:47 AM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I disagree. I believe that Nee provided a philosophical construct based on some kind of asceticism or mysticism that incorrectly draws lines between the mind and the emotions. Between the emotions...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-19-2011, 10:08 AM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I have ignored the "spreading strife among brothers" portion because that is such a subjective thing. A lie can spread strife. The truth can spread strife. And avoiding saying something true that...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-19-2011, 06:32 AM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

While I understand and agree (mostly) with what Nee has said, I find that this is a kind of way to ignore the plain meaning of "you should not bear false witness" and obfuscate it with something...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-18-2011, 02:49 PM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

Actually, analyzing what Lee did with the letters is not about "truth and reality" v "preferences" but about false statements justified by taking snippets of these letters out of context. The whole...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-17-2011, 02:43 PM
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Posted By OBW
Re: Rosemead

You are completely correct. That is why reading these words, taken in this case from an account in Rosemead, and in the earlier post from Bill Mallons' letter, creates for me a mockery of everything...
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