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Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-22-2011, 10:19 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Dalliance with the Devil

The bottom line is that whatever the motivation to do what he did, his actions were a direct result of the fact that he was not under authority. JI came to him and John So came to him and Bill...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-22-2011, 10:01 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Dalliance with the Devil

What can man do to me? Jesus tells us not to fear him who can kill you, but Him who after you are killed can toss you into the Gehenna fire. If you have this attitude you couldn't be blackmailed. ...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-22-2011, 09:59 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I was introduced to him one day while he ate lunch. My impression was very strong that this is not a man of God, and I was very much incredulous that RG could respect this man.
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 02:05 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

There is a science to reading whether a person is lying or not. Changing tone may be a good indicator, but it may just indicate stress. In fact many ways of catching a liar involve upping the...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 08:22 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

In my experience I was in Taipei when this took place. It was made abundantly clear to me that even asking for details about what happened would put suspicion on you as being rebellious. We were...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 07:46 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

Yes, what WL has done is fully condemned in the Bible as making a false witness that spreads strife. And, yes, WN's teaching surely does condemn WL's actions.

The issue with WN's teaching here,...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-21-2011, 05:43 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I think you have the basic thesis for a great book that would be very profitable to Christians everywhere. You could use WN's words and WL's actions to demonstrate all the various ways that someone...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-20-2011, 07:29 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I also agree with Mike. The Bible refers to "a false witness" that "spreads discord" this is the effect of your speech. WN gets into a lot of discussion on motivation and creates a lot of extra...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-20-2011, 07:15 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

From my own experience, I first heard of the Rosemead incident in while I was in Taipei. I did not know any saints in Rosemead so it was not something I felt personally involved in. But that church...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-19-2011, 07:37 AM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Fermentation of the Present Rebellion

I think when you read this you have to keep the context of the words "false witness". Although witness can be a very general term, it is also quite specific to examples as cited in this thread about...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-17-2011, 04:25 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Rosemead "Rebellion" - a normal rejection of the Spirit

Do you think it would ever be possible to have a single "MOTA" and a single publishing house, and yet avoid a repeat? Is the real root of the problem having all the churches beholden to a single...
Forum: Turmoil and Concerns of the late 1980s 07-17-2011, 12:21 PM
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Posted By ZNPaaneah
Re: Rosemead

Several quick observations:

1. Why does "critical" become "rebelling"? If you read this letter it seems that if you disagree with WL you are "rebelling". It seems there is no room for anyone to...
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