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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Watchman Nee, arguably a martyr, is well-respected interdenominationally.
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As far as being a martyr, he spent 20 years in prison, after confessing in court to producing and holding pornography. But a lot of people went into Chinese Communist Jails in the 1950s.
Question: if Nee didn't produce and have pornographic home movies, why did he confess in court to doing so?
Either he lied to save his skin, and get a lesser punishment (life in prison versus death), or he told the truth. Either way he doesn't come off too well. The documentation of what happened to the church after they heard him confess is known. If he spoke something irrelevant at an irrelevant show trial, why did this speaking shipwreck the faith of so many who'd followed him?
And this after his hand-picked elders expelled him for the same thing! Either he did a very bad job of picking elders, or they knew something. And as
UntoHim points out, Ravi Zacharias was well-respected internationally, until the truth came out.
Watchman Nee looks great until you start to look closely. And the more closely you look, the worse it gets.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
But on this forum he is a plagiarist, based upon the flimsiest of evidence.
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If you read the Second Edition of the Spiritual Man book, his publisher's Foreword acknowledges that Nee took extensive portions of Jessie Penn-Lewis and passed it off as his own. Did he realize what he was doing? I don't know, but in the preface Nee repeatedly calls it "my work", so I wonder what the possessive pronoun translated "my" means in Chinese. Maybe his conscience really was untrammeled. But maybe Witness Lee's conscience was also unbothered when he hit up his captive churches for hundreds of thousands of dollars for his son's Motor Home business.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Who among us has not appropriated a story and retold it with embellishments, perhaps even narrating it in the first person?
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See quote below
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Originally Posted by Friedel
When it suited Witness Lee, he liked using only those parts of any situation he truly liked, preferring to leave out the pieces he didn’t like, thereby creating a super clean image of himself. He was the great master builder of his own deception.
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Appropriating stories, embellishments thereof, insinuating oneself into the center, doesn't seem like Christian Witness to me.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
What purpose does this thread serve? What is the expected response from a visitor to this forum?
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The more of Watchman Nee is seen, the worse he looks. If you read the accounts of the witnesses like Don Hardy, Friedel Hansen, Bill Mallon, John Ingalls and Don Rutledge you get a broader picture. And this thread is consistent with that.