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Yeah they're really back pedaling on this one. I've watched Kangus enough to know that he has kind of a deep seeded thing against women in general. I guess I understand why though. I don't think in and of itself it's abhorent per se. It's certainly problematic, but I totally get it. If you're someone who understands that satan is very much behind and instigating things through the waves of modern feminism then it's a different perspective. On the other hand idealistically equality should be the norm. But I believe after the first wave of feminism things went to hell quick and they've really damaged society through the subsequent waves of feminism. But.....with that said, Ron is a speaker and he should be very careful how he words things, and I don't really think he was over the years so much on this topic. If it uncovers something deeper about the recovery then that's a different thing than calling out the evils of modern feminism. If women are viewed as second class citizens in the recovery then obviously it can bring about huge problems. They have to be so careful in everything they say because some young brothers might take the idea and run with it and I'm sure they have
But yeah they are really doing damage control on that one. But I think he's said borderline worse over the years
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Would the critics have Ron skip the story of Miriam’s leprosy and the lessons to be learned from it? Would they have him ignore the lessons from our own history? Those who follow the speaking of the ministry in the Lord’s recovery know that the brothers, including Brother Ron, speak much more regularly to the leading brothers in the churches about rebellions instigated by ambitious brothers, charging the leading ones not to exercise control or lord it over the saints but to shepherd them and become a pattern to them (1 Pet. 5:2-3). In the same message in which Brother Ron spoke about Miriam, he spent an equal amount of time on the rebellion of Korah, a rebellion led by men and fueled by rivalry and ambition in the service of the Lord, and more than twice as much time on how to properly represent God as a leading brother.
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They're trying to be "balanced and fair" but totally ignoring the whole part where Lee says women are inferior to men in the footnotes
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When it is read in context, Brother Ron’s point in mentioning his wife in his message on Miriam was not to denigrate her but to illustrate that his role in serving the Lord as a co-worker does not bestow any status in the Lord’s work upon her
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But it does upon him? Lol, they don't realize that they just uplifted Ron here. Technically we all are nothing in the eyes of God. If God uses us then it's not that we are special, it's just that he chose to use us. I guess they don't realize that they're uplifting Ron to a higher status than the regular saints here. Shot themselves in the foot while trying to defend a different topic lol
So is Ron in a special class, like sayyyyyyy a clergy class? lol, so now we're uplifting the speakers huh? smh
Crazy how there's literally a website out here just to defend this stuff. Man, what happened to turning the other cheek and letting God figure it out? They condemn the practice of calling out error when it presents itself, but they don't see their own errors in doing so. Darn that pesky truth! lol, if they had nothing to hide why are they so vigilantly defending themselves? No I don't think anyone took anything out of context here, Ron is just putting down his wife as below him and uplifting himself to a status that is higher than the average believers, which he claims his wife is. So if his wife is nothing then all the women in the recovery must be nothing too. And all the none speaking and none elder brothers as well? Or are they higher status than all the women? What a can of worms man. How about just leave all of that alone and focus on Christ which is what you're supposed to do
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"I am so thankful I have my companion, my wife, to travel with me wherever I go, but I am the co-worker; I am the one ministering. She is nothing. She is no one. She is just my wife. I will never crown her. I will never exalt her. To do so would be to damage her" -Ron Kangus
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So your wife is nothing but you're something? Are you implying that you're wearing a crown here Ron? How is this not pride? I thought there were no class or distinctions in the church? If there's no class or distinctions then why are the wives of the leading brothers claiming they have a higher class than others? Why did that happen in the first place? Could it be because they saw their husbands basking in the glory of their positions and the wives wanted in on some of that power?
Here is a really good article I found on no class or distinctions in the church-
https://gewatkins.net/what-about-chu...-distinctions/