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Old 03-16-2024, 01:55 AM   #24
aron
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Default Re: Titus Chu spin off-help?

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Originally Posted by ThankfulForever777 View Post
Just curious how large was this breakup in North America, proportionally speaking? Would you estimate it affected 5%, 10%, 20%, 30%, or even more of the population/ churches of Witness Lee's followers?
It impacted the Eastern USA followers. The Brasilians had infiltrated many Eastern Seaboard churches, and when Titus Chu and Dong Yu Lan pulled out of the Recovery it significantly affected operations.
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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
That’s what I’m talking about. TC always gave us the impression that WL’s ministry burden was “undone by subordinates.” He held WL in the highest reverence, yet nearly despised all the Blendeds, eg “those 5 little boys.”
When WL passed, one of the current Blendeds passed through, making rounds. He told us, "The age of Spiritual giants is over, it is the age of small potatoes." TC was willing to be a small potato to WL, but not to BP & EM & RK. That's it in a nutshell. Same w Dong, who would kowtow to WL but not the little boys of Anaheim.

This is why I see church as such a landmine. Very few people that I know socially are willing to believe that God raised Jesus from the dead and gave him glory. Why? Because behind that gospel, they see TC and the Blendeds playing church. Staying in the world makes a lot more sense than getting pulled into that. I saw families pulled apart: are you with Dong -- or with Anaheim?

Back to my original point - nobody can address the 300 lb gorilla in the living room. When I mention the reciprocity in 1 Corinthians 14 and Galatians 2, and its sheer and utter absence in the top rungs of the Recovered Church of Nee, Lee, Dong, Chu... silence. Their tradition renders them incapable of seeing this. To them, it does not and cannot exist. Yet they spend their days, staring at the Bible, dredging support for their traditions.

Even some traditions get no Bible support. When we were told, "The age has turned", no verse was cited. Why? Because WL was the Spiritual man and you are not. That was the basis of the whole Guanxi network. Your connection to God is through lining up with the Deputy God. Yet the NT not only doesn't support this, it condemns it. But tradition demanded it to be so.

It doesn't matter if God's economy has intensified Spirit, which Paul never referenced. "It was a revelation of the Spiritual man, God's oracle." Or, multiple conflicting centers of the universe. Or, local churches being overturned by the Jerusalem principle. Or, the reversed role of women in church. If the Guru flip-flops, and yesterdays black becomes today's white, he's right. Tradition demands it to be so.

Inherited and engrained tradition demanded that TC and DYL break off from Anaheim. They were just filling roles.
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