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bearbear · 03-24-2024, 02:39 PM

Nelson Walters had a interesting video where he contends that the most important question is not the timing of the Lord's return but whether or not we will actually make it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWcbzfedIM

Jesus implies in verses like Luke 18:8 that not many on the earth will have faith when he returns: "... Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?"

Matthew 7:14
For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

From NDE's I've research I've found two that claim only 2.5% of people on the earth are actually saved which would fit the narrative of only a few being saved and/or making it in a rapture.

Howard Pittman's testimony:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnwGMG7PHg&t=1398s

Karl Falken's testimony:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qMpex6WPC0&t=3580s

To back up this claim using scripture, during Ejiah's time, God told him that he had saved a remnant of 7000 Israelites who did not bow down to Baal.

1 Kings 19:18
"Yet I will leave seven thousand in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him."

The population of the kingdom of Israel around this time was around 300000, meaning 7000/300000 or ~2.3% of Israelites were saved during that time.

Now here's a sobering thing to think about: Jesus says few are saved yet many in comparison will think they are saved and refer to him as Lord and find themselves disowned. Jesus says he never knew them so they were likely never born again. They likely misinterpreted grace to mean they could live their lives however they wanted and they did not follow the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) and hence were lawless/evil doers.

Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’"

1 John 4:7
Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.

Okay you may be thinking to yourself 2.5% sounds abnormally low, but based on cell phone data only 2.8% of Americans actually attend church on a weekly basis including people of all faiths:
https://twitter.com/Devin_G_Pope/sta...70211841826817

03-24-2024, 02:39 PM	#381
bearbear Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 733	Re: Prophecy - The End Times Nelson Walters had a interesting video where he contends that the most important question is not the timing of the Lord's return but whether or not we will actually make it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkWcbzfedIM Jesus implies in verses like Luke 18:8 that not many on the earth will have faith when he returns: "... Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?" Matthew 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. From NDE's I've research I've found two that claim only 2.5% of people on the earth are actually saved which would fit the narrative of only a few being saved and/or making it in a rapture. Howard Pittman's testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnwGMG7PHg&t=1398s Karl Falken's testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qMpex6WPC0&t=3580s To back up this claim using scripture, during Ejiah's time, God told him that he had saved a remnant of 7000 Israelites who did not bow down to Baal. 1 Kings 19:18 "Yet I will leave seven thousand in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him." The population of the kingdom of Israel around this time was around 300000, meaning 7000/300000 or ~2.3% of Israelites were saved during that time. Now here's a sobering thing to think about: Jesus says few are saved yet many in comparison will think they are saved and refer to him as Lord and find themselves disowned. Jesus says he never knew them so they were likely never born again. They likely misinterpreted grace to mean they could live their lives however they wanted and they did not follow the law of Christ (Galatians 6:2) and hence were lawless/evil doers. Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’" 1 John 4:7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Okay you may be thinking to yourself 2.5% sounds abnormally low, but based on cell phone data only 2.8% of Americans actually attend church on a weekly basis including people of all faiths: https://twitter.com/Devin_G_Pope/sta...70211841826817 __________________ 1 John 4:9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. Last edited by bearbear; 03-24-2024 at 07:50 PM.