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Originally Posted by Trapped
Just in case readers here don't want to take the time to listen, or take the punch to the gut in order to listen to his voice.....here is some of what he actually says:-----
I have a very pleasant question to ask. At least, I think it's pleasant. Who is the father of the local churches? Just consider. You may say, "well, God is the Father." Yes, but that's not that practical. Then you may say, "well the apostles, they're the father." Well, apparently, that's right. But the apostles represent the Body of Christ. The Body is the father of the churches. Whenever a genuine local church is raised up, the body-father is involved. Oh, and the father loves all of his little children! And he has feelings for them all. Oh look at this one, he looks like me! And that one, he looks like me! They all look like me! All the churches look like the body! Now I'm in Peru. I've never been in Peru. But I feel at home in Peru. Because there's a real, genuine expression of the Body of Christ in Lima, Peru. I don't have time this visit to go to Chiclaio (sp?). But I know in my spirit it's the same. I know what's in your heart. That all you want to be is part of the Body of Christ! And the Body says Amen! The enemy wants you to be part of a system, with a hierarchy. But Christ the Head of the Body does not agree. All the genuine local churches in Peru are part of the Body of Christ. Any church that is not part of the Body is not a genuine local church but a sect.
Um.......what? No seriously.......what?!
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Definitely very wacky. Definitely not Biblical in the least. My spidey senses are telling me that Kangus is doing here what Lee did towards the end of his life- just start making up new terms that sound lofty to fool people into thinking he was still getting new light directly from God. What a charade! But yeah sounds to me like that’s what Kangus is doing here. These men are charlatans. These speakers are just grifters. Competing with each other to be the most prominent grifter. They either regurgitate and plagiarize Nee and Lee or they try to come up with their own weird doctrines. This one definitely stands out as a kicker as one of the goofiest things I’ve heard in the local churches
It doesn’t even make sense according to their own definitions. Lee says church means gathering of called out ones, and the body is all the believers collective. Therefore these things cannot be fundamentally designated to only the local churches. The church and the body cannot ONLY exist in the local churches. Those terms are universal according to Lee’s own definitions of them. So they are contradicting themselves anytime they say the local church is the only legitimate church (gathering), or the local church is the only recognized body of Christ, and they all have said this, even Lee. It’s like they really don’t think people are going to notice how contradictory they are. They really are confident in the delusion of their followers. They don’t have any respect for them apparently. But this one yeah, this one’s a doozy
The “body father,” ok. Sounds like a heresy on the level of the four in one God that Lee concocted. Not only is the son the father according to Lee, but now the body is the father according to Kangus. mmk ��
Ironic also how he brings up hierarchy as if only “degraded Christianity” has a hierarchy when the local churches have always had a clear and distinct hierarchy. Just straight up word waxing and lying to people