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Originally Posted by UntoHim
ZNP I don't see where Mike is mocking.
His example:
"Our Father. Oh, Lord, Amen, Our Father! Yes, Lord, our Father! Hallelujah, our Father! . . . Thy kingdom! Oh, Lord, Your kingdom! It's all about your kingdom! Save us prom prayers about anything but your kingdom! Come. Oh, Lord, Come! Come! Come! . . . "
This is an accurate example. Plus Mike went on further to give a very detailed and helpful (in my view) rebuttal and provided to us what "pray-reading" should really look like.
I am reminded of the apostle Paul's word to the Corinthians: "I will pray with my spirit, but I will pray with my mind also". In my opinion what is practiced in the LC ignores the mind part. Of course when you tell people to "get out of their mind" what else could you expect?
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Do you pray with your mind also? Would you be offended if I said you didn't? How about OBW? How about OBW's family that still meets with the LRC?
The question is you don't see where Mike is mocking. My response is "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". I consider it very much over the line if someone criticizes and complains about my prayer and my time with the Lord. I personally do not practice "pray reading" as described by OBW, not even when I was in the FTTT. No one ever pressured me, I just prayed quietly while others did all of that. But on the other hand I never criticized. I have heard one argument that in the LRC you have to adopt this practice or else you are not "one". Yet, this approach of attacking this practice is to me no different, just the other side of the pendulum.
In my experience the most vocal and energetic of this style of "pray reading" were those who were recent converts. Surely you remember the joy of your salvation. Maybe they are just expressing that and it takes a year or two to work its way out.
Ultimately, I have seen a lot that I would be critical of in Christians, particularly sin and the flesh. I think criticizing pray reading is not on my list. I have known many, many saints in the LRC that had been there for over 10 years and I can't think of any that stands out as being "mindless".
This thread is "combating LC arguments". Someone brought up pray reading and my response was to use RG's book as a place where you could meet and fellowship with this person. I feel that they would be open to the fellowship and it might help them to see that their practice, if it is the case, is mindless and not what was practiced by the saints of old. I stand by that advice.