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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
My position is that there is a difference between “trying an apostle and finding him to be false” and teaching that WL’s ministry is forfeit based on his sins. I think you can try an apostle by looking at their teachings, not the same thing as looking at the person. I also think that you can look at sins and judge sins. Fair enough. But when you take the next step and say because of this man’s sins he was not a servant of the Lord I feel you have overstepped. That is not for you to say, that is for the Lord. That very act violates the Lordship of Jesus. So if this forum is, as UntoHim has stated, a jury to determine if WL was a true servant of the Lord then I don’t want any part of it.
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It's nearly impossible to find a servant of the Lord in the Bible whose children brought honor to their father and glory to God. The two seem almost mutually exclusive.
King David was an abject failure when it came to raising children. One of his sons raped one of his daughters, and David did nothing about it, consequently another one of his sons was forced to take justice in his own hands.
Looking at Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, I'm hard-pressed to find any good patterns of marriage and child-rearing, and these are the Patriarchs of Israel.
We have discussed the corruptions of old Eli the priest and his boys, but it was the failures of Samuel's own children that caused Israel to cry out for a king.
Looking at the many examples in the Bible,
ZNPaaneah has some solid points about not judging WL. In this regard, the forum goes often beyond "
what has been written" in judging WL. This does not mean, however, that ministers cannot be held accountable by the church, rather they must be.