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ZNPaaneah · 04-09-2012, 01:24 PM

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1. I don't buy the first one. To be balanced you should also point out that WL often emphasized a college education. All young people in the LRC were encouraged very much to develop their mind. And he would often rebuke the idea that "knowledge = evil" as an understanding of his teaching. I think you couldn't be a full timer in the FTTT unless you had a college degree. I think there is a lot of documentation to support WL's emphasis of the need for a sound, well trained mind.

2. I agree with you that WL's stated opinion was that psychology was relatively worthless. In his defense I would point out that the science of psychology has come a very long way in the last 40 years as has our understanding of the brain. So if you are going to say this it should be emphasized that the context was the 70s and 80s.

3. I would be interested in your critique of the verses that WL used to emphasize the organic union, the verses of one spirit and the analogy of one flesh. At present I believe there is a very good basis to support the idea that Christ in you, the hope of glory is something organic. I expect that this point is where the debate will focus, but that is just my first impression.

4. I don't buy this. The NT very clearly talks of growth and maturity. The two OT examples of rapture, Moses and Elijah, could certainly be examples of growth and maturity. No doubt faithfulness is also a critical factor. But just because the heart is critical for life doesn't make the liver a non factor. Likewise even though faithfulness is critical, there is a big difference between a believer who has only been saved for a month being "faithful" and one like Moses who is faithful in all His house.

04-09-2012, 01:24 PM	#2
ZNPaaneah Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 7,105	Re: Four Areas where W. Lee was Flat Wrong Comments 1. I don't buy the first one. To be balanced you should also point out that WL often emphasized a college education. All young people in the LRC were encouraged very much to develop their mind. And he would often rebuke the idea that "knowledge = evil" as an understanding of his teaching. I think you couldn't be a full timer in the FTTT unless you had a college degree. I think there is a lot of documentation to support WL's emphasis of the need for a sound, well trained mind. 2. I agree with you that WL's stated opinion was that psychology was relatively worthless. In his defense I would point out that the science of psychology has come a very long way in the last 40 years as has our understanding of the brain. So if you are going to say this it should be emphasized that the context was the 70s and 80s. 3. I would be interested in your critique of the verses that WL used to emphasize the organic union, the verses of one spirit and the analogy of one flesh. At present I believe there is a very good basis to support the idea that Christ in you, the hope of glory is something organic. I expect that this point is where the debate will focus, but that is just my first impression. 4. I don't buy this. The NT very clearly talks of growth and maturity. The two OT examples of rapture, Moses and Elijah, could certainly be examples of growth and maturity. No doubt faithfulness is also a critical factor. But just because the heart is critical for life doesn't make the liver a non factor. Likewise even though faithfulness is critical, there is a big difference between a believer who has only been saved for a month being "faithful" and one like Moses who is faithful in all His house.