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Old 05-10-2012, 11:50 AM   #196
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Default Re: Four Areas where W. Lee was Flat Wrong

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
He said he was in the petrified forest, he knew the "wood" was actually stone, but one little twig look so convincing he just kicked it. He was wearing sneakers and broke his toe. So how does a "twig" become stone if their isn't an organic change in nature. So yes, I think the Triune God, who is very weighty, has, to some extent, been worked into my soul.
This is not really a very good example of organic union. It is more like inorganic replacement. As the wood decays, rather than just being out on the ground, turning to dust and blowing away, it is inundated with minerals transported in water. Those minerals combine with certain natural elements of the wood such that the color remains in place.

But the organic thing that is wood is slowly replaced by minerals which are not organic. In the end, there is no wood. Only the hint that wood was once there. This would be a great example of something replacing something else. But not of something becoming in union organically. And even if the replacement metaphor is desired, you then need to be focused on evidence in scripture that such a thing is happening.

The purpose of a metaphor is not to force a reading that is not there. It is to better explain what is otherwise clearly there. So if the underlying scripture is not describing replacement, then using an example of petrified wood is to misinterpret, or miss-explain, the passage. The fact that an example/metaphor describes replacement does not prove that the passage is talking about replacement. You must start with a passage that describes replacement. So pulling out one example after another is pointless if you are not going to link it to some scripture that is actually saying what you are trying to say with your metaphor.

Once again, the purpose of this rehash of old posts is not to run down any particular poster. But he has demonstrated something that is going on in most of our minds too much of the time. We buy Lee's thinking because we heard it so much. We almost immediately turn to it as being the truth because we think we learned it as being true. But Lee skipped an important part in the process. He didn't start with scripture that said what he was saying. He took an example and declared that it was an excellent way to understand it and we never put our good minds to use to see if we agreed. We just agreed.

And we continue to agree. We look out at other Christians and their organizations and automatically see degradation and Babylon. We never stopped to determine whether it was actually true. Lee fed us the (il)logic and we bought it. And if we started to question, there was either an inner or outer "get out of your mind" to help us avoid rational thought.
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