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Originally Posted by Indiana
I wonder, Igzy, why you did not refer to my points in post #19, which were in response to the pertinent forum questions:
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With all due respect, Steve, my comments were in response to post #19. What I saw there was a person reminiscing and remembering the good in an idealized fashion and still living in the idea that phenomenon was "THE LORD'S RECOVERY."
I wasn't mocking you. I was speaking my heart to you. You seem hung up on an idealized version of the past about which you've reached some unhealthy conclusions. So things were great back then? That's fine as far as that goes. But please tell us what that means for us
TODAY. So far I haven't heard much. You seem to be suggesting that we all need to go back to the way it was then. As John Myer said, that's not going to happen.
I've already suggested what I think about that past--that God is always looking for people who are willing to experience his reality in the Spirit and be one around him, so he blessed us initially. That is enough for me to understand what happened back then.
The rest of it--such as that Nee and Lee were the bellwethers of "The Lords's Recovery," or that God was vindicating the local ground, or that everything else was Babylon from which we were to go up, go up, etc-- is really just extreme speculation. You can believe it if you want, but there is absolutely no reason to expect anyone else to.
I'm not mocking you, I'm trying to understand you. I think a call to return to the past is a BAD PRESCRIPTION. I think it will simply reproduce the same result we've seen--exclusiveness masquerading as oneness. And my purpose here is to try to help people who are dealing with an LC past. So I have to call out what I think are bad prescriptions. That's what I think the Lord wants me to do.
I'm currently reading a book on economics. In it the author defends capitalism, but acknowledges its weaknesses. To those who believe that government should control the economy he has this to say--at its extremes
such an arrangement can only be enforced through oppression.
That's the LRC all over. Its defenders argue that it is the best system. But like a command economy, it can only be maintained through oppression. The local ground results in oppression. "God's unique move on the Earth" results in oppression. The system you defend had the seeds of oppression built into it.
Oppression didn't happen because bad guys got in charge. It happened because of the belief that the system was the one true way. Sadly, all the singing about going up from Babylon led to being oppressed in another Babylon. Don't you see that?
And where there is economic oppression (material or spiritual) there is eventually going to be a black market--for alternatives to government-issued shoes, or for a decent ministry for women, or for a different set of elders than those who presume to be over the city in which I happen to live.
In the world of command economists, which includes LRCers, those who participate in the black market are called "dissenting ones." So it goes...