I feel honored to be having a discussion with an EO apologist. I'm learning a lot.
Proverbs: “Keep hold of instruction; do not let go; guard her, for she is your life.” 4:13
“The wise lay up knowledge, but the mouth of a fool brings ruin near.” 10:14 “An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.”18:15
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Originally Posted by InChristAlone
Awareness, thank you for your comments and questions. They help me dig up and ponder more than I usually do.
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You are welcome ... and ... me too ...
You present a lot of meat. More than a meal full. I'll do my best with it.
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Originally Posted by ICA
You are right. God is merciful but I am still a sinner.
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By very definition. Cuz any other definition would spoil the salvation paradigm.
Yes even after being born again we still have our humanity to deal with (And we're not Gnostics, are we? That disdained humanness.. We can still sin ... and do. God forgave David, but David still had to pay the consequences of his actions. And so do we. We're forgiven but still God is seeking to teach us by the consequences of our sin(s) ... And to be honest, I've gone thru some very hard lessons. Gosh, am I stupid ... award worthy. UntoHim is right about me. I'm a sinner, quintessential, sorry to say. I'm broken and in bad need of divine vouchsafing.
What happened to all that transformation that was suppose to be going on in the local church? Ten years of eating Jesus, calling on his name like it was OCD, pray-reading the Bible, attending meetings every day, service groups, morning watch, life-studies, conferences, and I ended up with very little to show for all that fanatical -- all in -- commitment. Ended up transformation was a bill-of-goods ... a bait and switch ... a expectation and promise broken.
This is where I have a rub with the EO and Theosis. I don't buy it for a second. If they (EO) only mean it as union with God then I have no problem with it. I've experienced that. But as I understand it they mean deification, or changing into a likeness of God. Sorry, thousands of years and still only one like God. No others. Theosis is a false claim. As false as transformation in the LRC.
Sorry ICA to get carried away. I've got more responses to your long post (and will continue) but I think I'm gonna stop here for now.
Respond, or not, as you feel moved.