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Paul Cox · 09-11-2008, 05:35 PM

Consider this possibility, saints:

There was something brewing in Witness Lee's heart all the way back in China. It took a while for it to come out, but eventually it did. Without the condition of his heart being such as it was, what happened in the eighties never would have taken place.

Things were good, to an extent in the seventies. But remember, there were large numbers of older saints who had been with Watchman Nee in China. I believe some of that blessing from China was still on the group. It took a while for the things in Witness Lee's heart to become manifest, and eventually all that was good in the group got usurped by 100% Witness Lee.

Now his survivors have taken things to an absolute extreme, and have long ago gone past the point of no return.

I entered the Local Church in the early seventies. The church life was enjoyable. But there were warning signs all over the place. Of course, there weren’t HWMRs back then, but I certainly remember being on the list to automatically get the life study messages in a little manila envelope every week.

Everybody reading the same thing, speaking the same thing, and doing the same thing was already well in place. And, even then whenever Witness Lee opened his mouth that would start a herd stampede in another direction. It was the “flow.”

I always likened it unto a football drill that many of us are familiar with: Everybody in full gear under the hot blazing sun, and high stepping in place. The coach raises the football and moves it to the right. Off goes the group prancing in that direction. Then he moves the football in the opposite direction and off the team goes in that direction. That was how the Local Churches on the earth reacted to the different “flows” proceeding out of Witness Lee’s mouth, even back in the seventies.

The intent was the same; the method has changed over the decades. But the end result is just to have a group of people who are in complete uniformity, with little possibility that many would escape the plantation.

Roger

PS KisstheSon,
Thanks for posting the riches from the ministry of TAS. For all the years in the Local Church we were discouraged from getting into his ministry. Come to find out, much of what Lee was teaching had originally come from TAS.

His audio messages are also available at
www.Christiantapeministry.com
The ministry is called something else now, but that ad

09-11-2008, 05:35 PM	#50
Paul Cox Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 181	Consider this possibility, saints: There was something brewing in Witness Lee's heart all the way back in China. It took a while for it to come out, but eventually it did. Without the condition of his heart being such as it was, what happened in the eighties never would have taken place. Things were good, to an extent in the seventies. But remember, there were large numbers of older saints who had been with Watchman Nee in China. I believe some of that blessing from China was still on the group. It took a while for the things in Witness Lee's heart to become manifest, and eventually all that was good in the group got usurped by 100% Witness Lee. Now his survivors have taken things to an absolute extreme, and have long ago gone past the point of no return. I entered the Local Church in the early seventies. The church life was enjoyable. But there were warning signs all over the place. Of course, there weren’t HWMRs back then, but I certainly remember being on the list to automatically get the life study messages in a little manila envelope every week. Everybody reading the same thing, speaking the same thing, and doing the same thing was already well in place. And, even then whenever Witness Lee opened his mouth that would start a herd stampede in another direction. It was the “flow.” I always likened it unto a football drill that many of us are familiar with: Everybody in full gear under the hot blazing sun, and high stepping in place. The coach raises the football and moves it to the right. Off goes the group prancing in that direction. Then he moves the football in the opposite direction and off the team goes in that direction. That was how the Local Churches on the earth reacted to the different “flows” proceeding out of Witness Lee’s mouth, even back in the seventies. The intent was the same; the method has changed over the decades. But the end result is just to have a group of people who are in complete uniformity, with little possibility that many would escape the plantation. Roger PS KisstheSon, Thanks for posting the riches from the ministry of TAS. For all the years in the Local Church we were discouraged from getting into his ministry. Come to find out, much of what Lee was teaching had originally come from TAS. His audio messages are also available at www.Christiantapeministry.com The ministry is called something else now, but that ad