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Old 10-04-2008, 03:55 PM   #13
countmeworthy
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Originally Posted by Toledo View Post
CMW, interesting post -- much of what you say is also stirring within me.

One small caveat, though there may be many ministers (greek: leitourgos) in the New Testament, I cannot find any New Testament reference to the "office" of minister as it is recognized in contemporary Christianity (e.g. "Reverend So-and-So is our minister"). Somehow "minister" has come to mean some sort of spiritual leader.

Nor do I find any scriptural reference to the office of "pastor". Sorry to pick nits, but this has come up in various places. I thought it worth a reply. I don't mean to pour cold water on your otherwise excellent post.
You're not picking nits Toledo !

We're on the same page believe it or not! I didn't mean to use the word 'office' in the same context we use it to view say the 'office' of the president...

Perhaps I should have looked up the word before using it.

When Paul discusses pastors, shepherds, teachers, prophets etc...

I think he is referring to their function. Some people have the gift to teach..others have the gift to evangelize.

But we ALL have the ability to teach, to evangelize, to shepherd..some to a large degree...others in a small degree. By that I mean..some are able to teach large groups of people...others are better suited to teach one on one...like me.

Thanks for your input Toledo!

And after all my ranting and raving...I'm on my way to listen to Sid Roth speak at a local assembly..in fact, he is going to be at the church I used to attend. GULP!!!

I stopped attending that church almost 2 yrs ago !!

P.S. Sid Roth hosts a program called 'It's Supernatural'...or something like that...but he has a BIG heart for the Jews and for Israel.
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