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Old 03-25-2015, 03:36 PM   #18
aron
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Default Re: The Experience of Christ

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It's like you saying that people should fly, drive or take a boat to another destination, and then turn around and say you didn't encourage anyone to travel. I mean, duh.
But at the end of the day you don't know if you've traveled or not, so what are you talking about? You're just talking to make noise. Only God knows whether you've traveled or not, and how far, and by what means. And God won't tell you until the end of the journey. That's what the Judgment Seat is for.

If you need scriptures, how about, "Lord, when did we do this or do that?" Answer: "When you did it to the least of these my brothers". Then the one who said, "I did this, and I did that", is told, "Get away from Me. I don't know you." So they simply don't know until God tells them. Until then they don't know.

So if Paul said, "I have not yet laid hold", i.e. "I have not yet assessed whether and to what extent I have traveled (by boat or plane)", then who are we to presume? And if so, what then are we talking about? Terminology and concepts. Both of which WL made many books out of.

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How has holding this belief improved your relationship with God and your living out of the fruits of the Spirit? That's the bottom line. Since you are in the minority on this you need to tell us how it's made you a better Christian, because frankly I don't see how it has. We can all argue for things. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
To me, OBW is saying he doesn't want to eat the "experience of Christ" pudding being offered by WL, or whomever. He's not judging your pudding nor your eating. He just says there's no compelling reason for him to partake of it. It's just terminology and concepts.

Again, I apologize for speaking for someone else. That's what I get from his argument and it seems reasonable to me. But I may be off on a number of accounts here.
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