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I note that a couple of people went off recently insisting that this is all about finding Leeisms and LCM heretics.

Those people did not read the first post. This was not about the LCM. I will admit the origins of the term and thinking for many of us started there. But I doubt we keep it because we think Lee was right in that case. More because we have not considered it. And what we keep is not "LCM" or "Leeisms" per se.

I did mention Lee's book on the Experience of Christ in passing, but stated that critiquing the book was not intended. It was to define a term in a meaningful way and determine whether it is serving us well.

And certain of the LCDiscussions group have gone nuts trying to shut me up. One complained about my cold, analytical way of approaching things, then has more recently said that you can't just go by your experiences and feelings.

Seems that closing the discussion is necessary.

As I mentioned before, for those that are interested in the topic, engage it. Otherwise leave. And posting a list of verses after searching a lot of translations to find the word at all is hardly engaging the topic. I had already noted that the word was only barely in the Bible outside of certain versions. And if you search through enough never-heard-of translations, I guess you can find more.

But apparently few translators agree with those results. I went through roughly 1/3 of Igzy's list and none of it was instructive for maintaining the label. Should I keep it to myself until I have time to really study the rest? I don't think Igzy really thought about what he posted. He found the word so we thinks he won the argument.

And the proof that he insisted he had already given was really a restatement of a number of other phrases actually in the Bible as "has to mean experience." Something to consider. Not proof that it is so.

Don't like my demeanor? Seems to be on par with the kind of push-back I've been getting.

So what will they do now? Get indignant? Calm down? Engage the actual discussion? Decide it is not for them? I would hope for the two in the middle because I will find no answers doing this in a vacuum. But despite the number engaged here, it has remained mostly a vacuum because it is not about the topic, but insisting that it should not be talked about.