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So liberalism is just about the slaughter of the unborn?

Are those inextricably intertwined? Is impossible for people who disagree with abortion to otherwise have a generally liberal viewpoint on so many other things? Is a thinking Christian in danger of losing his faith (or his brains) because he voted for Clinton, Kerry, Obama, Dukakis, Carter, etc., and maybe even supports Sanders at this point in the primaries?

Does one issue that is mostly a shouting match with little or no current action decimate all other positions that tend to go with the people who hold that way?

I think this is the reason that our political system is in such turmoil. The huge collection of points and positions that is either political party is being hijacked by one or two hot topics that a secular society does not entirely agree upon even within the parties that seem to mostly take one stance or the other. Just being less extremely conservative (or liberal) is viewed as complete capitulation to the other side.

And we cannot have a rational debate about healthcare (its either Obamacare or nothing), immigration (its either let them all in without restriction or round them all up an toss them back over the new 90-foot, nuclear-bunker strength fence), etc., because middle ground on anything is being a traitor to the polar positions.

And then, when we get into the church and the discussion is about how it will respond, they won't even be civil to the LGBT person. They should straighten themselves out before I even think about preaching a gospel of anything other than condemnation to them.

That may not be you. But I see it all the time and it sickens me.

How should the church deal with homosexual individuals? I started to say "confront" but that is too often all we do. Confront them. Scream at them about their sin. When you do that openly about every other sin, even still going on among the "faithful," then maybe, just maybe. Confront that guy openly in the hallway about his extramarital affair.

I hate distilling politics and culture down to homosexuality, abortions, and immigration, but that is what so many do these days. Put up with heinous rules and regulations that their chosen party does enact so that we are seen as standing with the side on things that they mostly will have nothing to actually do anything about.

Either sides is a huge collection of positions. Some of them are good on both sides. Sometimes both sides are dogmatically stupid. Sometimes both have something to offer to a discourse on that particular issue.

But now an entire side of the discussion is eliminated as unthinking and un-Christian because of one position that not everybody with that general bent agrees with. Can you have a discussion on a series of different issues, some of which are possibly best represented by a liberal viewpoint? Or is the whole bankrupt because of one issue?

It has been suggested that Evangelicalism as we know it is on the brink of shrinking (maybe to near extinction) because we are putting more trust in our positions in the culture wars than in Christ.

So far you have given me no reason to dismiss the left in general. Only railed on a couple of pet positions.