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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Lots of "Politics" and no "the Church".
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Methinks bro zeek jumped the shark with the title of this thread. He thru church in to make it sound relevant, methinks.
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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Two bookends as far as Jesus Christ is concerned - During his ministry: "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. - - At the end of his ministry: "My kingdom is not of this world".
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And there's the church part. Now the rest of the thread will be about politics. That's okay. If it fires passion enough to keep the convo going, great.
But from time to time, for balance perhaps, Someone should drop in the churches position. Which is what Untohim cutely calls "bookends."
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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Occasionally I hear something like "God is not a Republican or a Democrat". This would be akin to saying "God prefers electric cars over conventional piston engine cars." None of the aforementioned things existed during the life and times of Jesus Christ, or the scripture writing apostles.
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Methinks -- there I go thinking again -- the Bible differs with you on this, tho maybe stretching parallels ... but maybe not too much -- you decide :
Jdg_1:19 And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain because they had chariots of iron.
Methinks, not again, the piston drive cars parallel chariots of iron.
Let's bring church into this, What should be the church's position on nuclear weapons? If God couldn't whip chariots of iron, He doesn't stand a chance against nukes. Should the church be for weapons the Lord of Hosts can't defeat?
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Originally Posted by UntoHIM
In fact, nothing like them existed. (The Greeks and Romans introduced Western Civilization to pseudo republics and pseudo democracies, but really and truly they were much less than what we would consider a republic, democracy or a republic democracy.)
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I fancy this idea that we can't relate life 2 and 3 thousands yrs ago with today. Some of our brethren are so obsessed with relating the Bible to everything that they are claiming the president elect Donald Trump is Cyrus the great. Haha ... he could just as easily be Nebuchadnezzar, putting us to the sword and leading us into slavery. Hey, it's important that everything be Biblical ... else God ain't doing it. And God forbid that.