Thread: Lee's Trinity
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:45 PM   #188
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Default Re: Lee's Trinity

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Originally Posted by UntoHim View Post
Are you saying that our Lord Jesus Christ was in error? I quoted directly from John 17:3. What part of "this is eternal life" do you not understand? If you have a New Testament that uses red letters for the direct words of the Lord Jesus then this statement would be in red. Accept or reject any or all of the "Trinity dogma" as you wish, but I would beg you to consider the pure, unassailable, direct words of our Savior "this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent".
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But "the only true God" refers also to Christ Himself based upon 1 John 5:20:

1 John 5:20 We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Now where is the verse that says there are TWO "true God's" ? Produce it please.

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Originally Posted by UntoHim View Post
Sure. Could you point me to a particular widely accepted, renown teacher, scholar or apologist who doesn't teach the Trinity alongside the Bible? Oh, you might find some infamous heretics, charlatans and apostle wannabes who wander far afield from the Bible, but this would be true when they speak of the Trinity as well as many other things. I wish to God that Witness Lee's followers had held him to the standard you expect others to follow.
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If they teach it alongside the bible how can you say it is "from the bible alone"? Even you did not think the bible sufficient when you posted the Athanasian Creed to help you explain the "orthodox Trinity".


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You make it sound as if God was not involved in this "process", or the Holy Spirit had no influence over these men. My friend, "heated debate" is something that God has used since the beginning. Some of these heated debates were actually recorded for us in the New Testament. As a matter of fact, the stark absence of debate, heated or otherwise, in the Local Church of Witness Lee, has contributed to the demise of the movement. Those of us who were around while Lee was alive, especially those of us who lived in So.Calif or Taipei, can testify of Witness Lee's harsh quashing of ANY debate regarding the teachings and practices he personally established. This dynamic continued after Lee's death, and it is most exemplified in "The One Publication" Bull.
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I am sure God was sovereign in this situation. But it's a weak argument to declare that whatever God permit under God's sovereign hand God also approves of.

Unlike Lee, it was very much a socio-political process, I believe Constantine was somehow involved. Then there is the matter of Christians killing Christians, which could never be sanctioned by God.
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