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Originally Posted by Ohio

Wait a minute. Have you forgotten all your LC prejudices which you regularly fling my way?

From my POV, when I see a comment that is consonant with LC thinking, I call it as such. If you think I'm wrong, just say so.

I get the double whammy, while you only hear about liberalism. Are you willing to reconsidering your liberal stances?

As I see it,a belief or practice is not wrong simply because such is held or practiced by the LC. I can explain why I disagree with the LC. If you hold to LC teaching, that's your choice. There's no whammy.

I don't hold any stances because you consider them liberal. I won't reconsider a stance because you label it "liberal." Now if you give me a sound argument why I should reconsider a stance I'm taking, I'll consider it.

I was a Kennedy/McGovern democrat/liberal back in my Cleveland days. Then the party left me. They kept moving left, never stopping, and I decided to stay still, considering the childhood values my parents put in me were not so bad after all. Nearly half a century later, my former party is totally unrecognizable. JFK, besides wanting to know who shot him, would be shocked with how the country has gone to, "[I]ask not what I can do for my country, but what will that effin country do for me?

Now that is surprising. On March 6, 1961 President John F. Kennedy issued an executive order, which included a provision that government contractors "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin." I was under the impression that you thought that people should be discriminated against if they were "Mooslim" [sic]. Shows how wrong I can be.

Perhaps you might reconsider your own positions in light of where you once were.

I'm not sure how that would work. My positions have changed based on my experience and knowledge. I now see where I once was in a larger context. I think it makes more sense to go forward. You should try it.