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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The issue to me is

1. What is happening?

2. Why?

3. What are the risks or dangers involved?

I think the science has done an adequate job of answering these three questions. We can quibble over the details, but denying the facts is not a defensible position.

that said I do agree that the solution is not necessarily to jump to some form of hysteria. Instead:

4. What is the solution?

5. How much will it cost?

This is the problem, there is no solution that can be implemented solely by the US. If India and China are not on board we don't have a solution.

By my understanding we have passed the point of no return a long time ago. We are on a runaway train, it has 5 or 6 engines of which we can only control one engine and we have no way of stopping this train.

We cannot avoid the storm, therefore prepare for it. If our military had an independent power source from the Sun then it would be unlikely that they would be unable to operate during a worldwide collapse. This is something we can do. It does make sense economically. We have the money and it is an efficient use of the money. By comparison trying to secure oil fields in the Middle East where Russia, Iran, India, China and Europe will all be fighting as well is not a good strategy. When the major powers are running their navies like Somali pirates the situation will be very different for us. No way to get an oil tanker from the Middle East to the US.

There is no reason why the US cannot be an exporter of energy.

But back to the pending "ice age" we faced decades ago. How did we fix that? What was the solution? How much did it cost?