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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Well none of the Old Testament leaders had an equivalent in the New Testament. None - NOT ONE - of the original apostles, or even Paul, equated their status to that of an Old Testament leader. Your point is moot.
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Were they leaders in the sense of elders or those with teaching authority? Were they leaders in their own right and not under the covering or by the side of their husbands?
Examples of women leading with their husbands or by their husbands side could be considered them leading under the covering of their husband.
Where are the examples of women, even single women, leading a church in their own capacity like men? This was related to the question posed by the newcomer to the forum which led to the thread on the Role of Women, where she asked whether females are leaders in the Recovery on their own spiritual capacity? Well the answer is no, but the Greek NT experts seem to agree, as well as the Orthodox and Catholics traditions if we should believe them.
I don't know what following Lee has to do with interpreting the bible from the Greek or consulting Greek NT experts on the matter. These are, Lee-independent sources I am quoting. They should be your sources of proof and example, not mine, if Lee was so wrong about this. If truth is standalone and to be found, then surely my approach is valid, regardless of whether or not I follow Lee. It seems you are blindly taking the words of Bushnell or Jane for granted without critical evaluation by the Greek NT experts. If the truth rests upon sound interpretation of the Greek NT then surely this is the approach one should take. I mean, this is the argument made by Jane/Bushnell in their case, that the bible translations are wrong, that only the Greek NT is to be trusted. Yet the Greek NT experts like Wallace disagree. Even John Piper disagrees, who is yet to be enlightened and blessed by the Holy Spirit. How is that?
All this confirms to me that it is hard to arrive at the truth. The eye of a needle, the narrow gate, cannot be proved by Greek NT alone or history/culture, one weighs the other to his or her own advantage.