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awareness · 07-18-2009, 08:14 AM

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KTS:
Based upon these experiences from late 1963 and early 1964, it would appear that TAS was definitely once again experiencing the 'flow' from God.

KTS, from a strictly objective point of view, anyone that thinks they can control the flow of God has to be one of the most arrogant persons in the world.

And once they make such a proclamation, then the seed of arrogance begins to grow. And after awhile they will then be saying things like "I am the oracle," "I am the apostle," "I am the authority."

All of this will of course be coming from the growth of the seed of arrogance. And what is produced will be self effort.

Can a man grab the wind? Can a man control the wind?

It appears to me that TAs was honest. And how many of us, if honest, has to admit that sometimes we don't sense the presence of God.

Could Lee be that honest. Could he ever admit that the Lord seemed to him to withdraw Himself from Lee? You know it happened. It happens to everyone that seeks to follow the Lord.

I say, because TAS was in honest person, that makes him more ture in his walk with the Lord than those that can't admit that they sometimes misstep, or fail to sense the presence. TAS wasn't a pretender. Lee was.

So therefore, the real flow was with TAS, and the fake flow was with Lee.

As I stated, Lee's measure of the flow was outward. If his movement was growing, that was all the proof Lee needed to claim the flow was with him.

But how arrogant that is! I bring someone to the Lord, which is really the Lord's doing, and I then claim the flow is with me.

This is why I say Lee was a megalomaniac. Lee was ambitious from the get-go. The fruit of his ambition became more and more obvious as time went on.

07-18-2009, 08:14 AM	#75
awareness Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,064	Re: "That They May Be One, Even As We Are One" - by TAS Code: KTS: Based upon these experiences from late 1963 and early 1964, it would appear that TAS was definitely once again experiencing the 'flow' from God. KTS, from a strictly objective point of view, anyone that thinks they can control the flow of God has to be one of the most arrogant persons in the world. And once they make such a proclamation, then the seed of arrogance begins to grow. And after awhile they will then be saying things like "I am the oracle," "I am the apostle," "I am the authority." All of this will of course be coming from the growth of the seed of arrogance. And what is produced will be self effort. Can a man grab the wind? Can a man control the wind? It appears to me that TAs was honest. And how many of us, if honest, has to admit that sometimes we don't sense the presence of God. Could Lee be that honest. Could he ever admit that the Lord seemed to him to withdraw Himself from Lee? You know it happened. It happens to everyone that seeks to follow the Lord. I say, because TAS was in honest person, that makes him more ture in his walk with the Lord than those that can't admit that they sometimes misstep, or fail to sense the presence. TAS wasn't a pretender. Lee was. So therefore, the real flow was with TAS, and the fake flow was with Lee. As I stated, Lee's measure of the flow was outward. If his movement was growing, that was all the proof Lee needed to claim the flow was with him. But how arrogant that is! I bring someone to the Lord, which is really the Lord's doing, and I then claim the flow is with me. This is why I say Lee was a megalomaniac. Lee was ambitious from the get-go. The fruit of his ambition became more and more obvious as time went on. __________________ Cults: My brain will always be there for you. Thinking. So you don't have to. There's a serpent in every paradise.