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Old 07-29-2009, 09:01 PM   #101
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Originally Posted by countmeworthy View Post
Excellent post KTS!!

In actuality, there was a lot of truth in what we were taught. But few 'got it'....really, really got it.

And the LC leadership, beginning with WL did a very poor job of truly explaining what it is to have true spiritual understanding. Perhaps no one knew how to explain it is GOD the Holy Spirit, who enlightens us and reveals the WORD of GOD (who is Jesus, GOD the SON, of course) to us.

With each passing year, the more I spend time in prayer, praying the Word of God slowly and thoughtfully, 'chewing' the Word, cross-referencing scriptures, seeking WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING, and fellowshipping with the LORD and with His body of believers, the more I'm 'getting it'. I"m sure this is true for every single person here...no matter how different our lives are now away from the LC wineskin.

I explained I had a WEALTH of spiritual knowledge in me for years, bottled up. I explained for several years, the Lord had me SHUT UP, LISTEN UP and LEARN from my non-LC brethren. In the last year or so, the Lord has began to 'release me'..to 'teach' others, to explain very basic but extremely important principles of the Word of God because I GET IT now . . . It's not HEAD KNOWLEDGE I'm sharing with them.

I honestly can say I received these foundational truths in my LC tenure. BUT, through a LOT of personal trials and tribulations, I learned the power of repentance and the power of the Blood of Jesus. So, now, I not only have the scriptures down pact, I have first hand experience.I'm sure MOST of us here, have been down this road...
Dear sister countmeworthy,

I am very, very, humbled that you think post # 96 was an excellent post. To me, the burden TAS picked up while meditating on and considering Matthew Chapter 13 is so helpful. Our dear brother was able to challenge us to pass through the stage of intellectual understanding and press onward all the way to spiritual understanding. These truths must not only remain in our minds as high and wonderful concepts; rather, these things must become true in us, especially in our daily living.

I really appreciate your very honest testimony, dear sister. How thankful I am to the Lord that he brought you to the place where He had you “SHUT UP, LISTEN UP and LEARN from my non-LC brethren.” And now, after passing through that experience, you have been released to teach others out of the storehouse of spiritual understanding He has gained in you. Praise Him! How Glorious!

Dear brother TAS had some further sharing in Message #8 regarding the importance of spiritual understanding. Right after speaking about the two disappointed disciples on the road to Emmaus, TAS said:

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"What had happened? All their expectations had gone. All their hopes were disappointed. All that they thought they believed had broken down. We say, 'the bottom had gone out of everything.' Dear friends, that had to happen. The Holy Spirit could never come until that had happened . . . Until these men had come to see that what was in their heads was not in their hearts. They had heard it with their ears, and seen it with their eyes, but they had no spiritual understanding. They had to come to that position before the Holy Spirit could come.

Before we can have the spiritual understanding that leads us into the Kingdom, we have got to have our own understanding brought to an end . . . We can know nothing of what is in this Kingdom, only as we are growing spiritually. Very often our intellectual life goes ahead of spiritual life, and when that happens, we have to come back a long way and start again. We sometimes think we know a great deal more than we really do know. Only a life in the power of the Holy Spirit learns the things of the Kingdom."
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