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Old 01-30-2018, 01:49 PM   #2686
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
I have been consistent from day 1, I support the investigation for numerous reasons, I am content to wait until Mueller is finished. I do not presume guilt but I also feel that the evidence fully justifies the investigation.

Which is:

1. Flynn lied concerning his connections with Russia, he has admitted guilt and is now working with the prosecution and he is not the only campaign official working with Mueller.

2. The prosecution does not cut a deal with Flynn unless he can get them bigger fish.

3. Kushner met with the Russians, was not honest concerning the meeting, and the meeting has the appearance of working together with the Russians. Not proof of collusion, but Bannon said there was a 0% chance that the Russians were not walked up to Trump's office. He also had to walk back quotes of his that this meeting was "treasonous".

4. Trump publicly asked the Russians to release top secret emails from Clinton to the public. Again, not evidence of collusion but showing terrible judgement by someone running for office in the US and in and of itself enough to justify many people demanding an investigation.

5. Manafort had to resign due to his connections with Russia.

6. Sessions had to recuse himself due to his connections with Russia.

7. Trump fired Comey. Based on Comey's account this was due to the Russia investigation. Although this does not cross the line of obstruction of justice the meeting with Comey was not above reproach. Once again, justifying to many the investigation.

8. Trump asked to fire Mueller, which would constitute obstruction of justice. This fact alone demands we get a full and exhaustive investigation from Mueller.

9. Russia did interfere with our election for president. This one fact alone completely justifies a full and exhaustive investigation.

10. Russia's interference with the election aided Trump and there is circumstantial evidence of a quid pro quo, undo things Obama did in exchange for getting Trump elected. Circumstantial evidence is that they helped Trump get elected and Trump undid some penalties levied by Obama. There may also be hard evidence that this was discussed and agreed upon between Trump and high ranking Russian officials. I expect Mueller's investigation to determine that.
It all sounds so serious, but even Peter Strzok the lead investigator said there was no "there there."

If Russia did interfere with our election for president, then we ought to investigate Russia.

There is to date no evidence that Russia's interference with the election aided Trump.

You are perpetrating year old folklore and media mythology. Sorry. I've been trying to tell you, but you're not listening.
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