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countmeworthy · 08-23-2009, 06:28 PM

Terry,
On the other forum which I confess, I peak at, there is a thread about Elders. On occassion, I have considered the 'offices': Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, (Elders) Shepherds, Pastors, Evangelists, Deacons, Bishops etc..

I also will confess I have not done an in-depth study on 'church affairs'. Perhaps someone more knowledgable and more anointed in these matters can shed some light..but per my point of view, having matured in Christ over time, through trials, tribulations, Mercy, Grace, Enlightenment, Perseverance and staying steadfast in my Faith in Christ Jesus, I am coming to the conclusion that those positions are acquired simply In Spirit. In other words, as we mature in Christ, we take on the office we are anointed with simply because we have been operating in that office. No one needs to 'ordain' us to that office..

Paul was 'ordained' an Apostle not by man but by Jesus Christ. He said so himself. He saw Jesus. In a sense, we all should be a little bit of all the offices combined.

But some are more gifted than others. Some are able to present the gospel with conviction and others might be gifted to teach the Word of God impacting the young believer...others might be more gifted in help building and edifying the Body of Christ.

Too many people rely on an 'apostle's' teaching... a Watchman Nee or a Witness Lee or a local congregational pastor. They let them do 'all the work' and the lazy sheep merely invite people to a church service or a meeting.

With many in the LSM, they merely pass out tracts on behalf of BFA. Their gospel message seems to be always the same.

I have told some of my LSM friends, Jesus never used the same formula to convict their hearts. In fact, He mostly spoke about the KINGDOM of God being at hand. He exhorted His disciples to pray "OUR FATHER"...not MY Father..and for "THY KINGDOM" to come...that is God's KINGDOM to come and for God's (PERFECT) WILL to be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Ok...before I go off on a rabbit trail, I'll stop right here.

May we all come to be who we are in Christ Jesus...members of one another...members of ONE Body...the Body of CHRIST...not the body of Lee, Pastor John Doe, or any particular ministry.

08-23-2009, 06:28 PM	#3
countmeworthy Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in Spirit & in Truth Posts: 1,378	Re: Thoughts for Fellowship Terry, On the other forum which I confess, I peak at, there is a thread about Elders. On occassion, I have considered the 'offices': Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, (Elders) Shepherds, Pastors, Evangelists, Deacons, Bishops etc.. I also will confess I have not done an in-depth study on 'church affairs'. Perhaps someone more knowledgable and more anointed in these matters can shed some light..but per my point of view, having matured in Christ over time, through trials, tribulations, Mercy, Grace, Enlightenment, Perseverance and staying steadfast in my Faith in Christ Jesus, I am coming to the conclusion that those positions are acquired simply In Spirit. In other words, as we mature in Christ, we take on the office we are anointed with simply because we have been operating in that office. No one needs to 'ordain' us to that office.. Paul was 'ordained' an Apostle not by man but by Jesus Christ. He said so himself. He saw Jesus. In a sense, we all should be a little bit of all the offices combined. But some are more gifted than others. Some are able to present the gospel with conviction and others might be gifted to teach the Word of God impacting the young believer...others might be more gifted in help building and edifying the Body of Christ. Too many people rely on an 'apostle's' teaching... a Watchman Nee or a Witness Lee or a local congregational pastor. They let them do 'all the work' and the lazy sheep merely invite people to a church service or a meeting. With many in the LSM, they merely pass out tracts on behalf of BFA. Their gospel message seems to be always the same. I have told some of my LSM friends, Jesus never used the same formula to convict their hearts. In fact, He mostly spoke about the KINGDOM of God being at hand. He exhorted His disciples to pray "OUR FATHER"...not MY Father..and for "THY KINGDOM" to come...that is God's KINGDOM to come and for God's (PERFECT) WILL to be done on earth as it is in heaven. Ok...before I go off on a rabbit trail, I'll stop right here. May we all come to be who we are in Christ Jesus...members of one another...members of ONE Body...the Body of CHRIST...not the body of Lee, Pastor John Doe, or any particular ministry. __________________ Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be *accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass,* and to stand before the Son of man. (Luke 21:36)