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Old 02-28-2018, 06:30 AM   #2815
zeek
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Obviously my posts pointed at those armed deputies and their commanders who did nothing to protect these school children. If Scott Peterson was a hero, he would not have been fired.

And you rushed to judgment. Why the blame game? It's still being sorted out down here.
With such a reasoned response here, you really should be working at CNN or MSNBC. They have called Trump, every NRA member, every Republican, and all conservatives "murderers." Sound like a national blame game to me.

Right-wing Florida politicians like Governor Rick Scott are showing greater willingness to look at the facts than you. They're considering solutions they would have rejected out of hand 13 days ago.
Show me one thing I have said here not based on facts. Perhaps your problem is that you have not heard any facts on CNN for years.

The Florida legislature was going to vote on an "open carry" law on the Friday February 16 that was taken off the table the day after the Douglas High shooting. Who knows, they may finally do something that works.
I'm all for state laws. I believe in representative legislature for our republic.

This reminds me of your reaction to the Mueller investigation. You seem to be in a big hurry to wrap up another complex problem in simplistic bow.
Big hurry? It's been 16 months since I first heard about the Trump election collusion. How much time does Muller need? So far, he found nothing. Flynn busted for a process crime? Manafort and Gates busted for tax evasion years ago? WHERE"S THE D**N COLLUSION?

Meanwhile House Republicans have unearthed a mountain of corruption between the Democrats and the Russians. Comey is dirty. Strzok and Page are dirty. Bruce Ohr and his wife are dirty. McCabe is dirty. The list is growing daily.


I've wept for the children who died and the ones that survived. I marched at the capital in solidarity with them. They're remarkable kids who's lives are now being threatened by haters.
We are all crying for them, but the reason their lives were in danger are threefold:
I'm hoping against hope that we are going to finally turn a corner on the violence that is destroying America. But, if we do, it won't be simple or easy.
We need to start with our current Godless culture. God has been removed from schools, abortion is available on demand, breakdown of families, availability of drugs, violent video games and movies, etc.


So far, the known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe are as follows:

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.


3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October in Washington, DC on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts. Then, last Thursday, Mueller filed a new case against him in Virginia, with tax, financial, and bank fraud charges.

4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was similarly indicted on conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements charges in Washington, and a plethora of new tax and financial charges this Thursday in Virginia. But he has now agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nts-grand-jury

Be patient. Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr investigated Bill Clinton from 1994 thru 1998. These things take time. Mueller might just be getting started.
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