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Old 03-16-2018, 07:39 AM   #2917
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
Are not these inflammatory references to Hitler totally disingenuous? Is not Hitler "resurrected" to cover up your own embarrassment in believing lies, hoaxes, and myths used to deceive the American people?

There is absolutely no correlation between concerns about Russian interference and the accusations of Trump collusion. Period!

Did you watch any Obama videos chastising Trump for even be concerned about election rigging? This was the President who was repeatedly warned by House Chairman Nunes et.al. that the Russians were interfering, yet Obama did nothing because he *knew* Hillary would win.

We know that Hillary and the DNC rigged the Democratic primary against Bernie Sanders, yet without any culpability. Where's the outrage about that.
We have had this discussion before. Collusion is a very difficult thing to prove. First you have to prove that the Russians influenced the election with the purpose of aiding Trump. That has been proved.

Then you have to prove that Trump's campaign contacted and met with the Russians. That has been proved.

Finally, you have to prove they colluded. Very difficult if not impossible to prove and as far as I am concerned trivial. What is much easier to prove is if Trump has received financial assistance from Russia and whether or not that gives them leverage. We do these kind of investigations on every single person who wants a security clearance. The only exception is the president. I have no problem with investigating him since he has refused to show us his tax returns and has refused to put his assets in a blind trust.

My point in using the Hitler reference was not to infer a similarity with Trump but to agree with you that Obama's statement was foolish. Any intelligent person should realize that democracies are prone to having their elections hacked.
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