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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
Although this thread is "Politics and the Church" it seems to me that "Politics and Religion" should be addressed here as well.
Personally I feel the whole idea that the US govt can be separated from religion is bogus. Whether or not you agree with Sharia Law the one thing I think everyone should be able to see is that admitting your religion is part of how your society and govt are run is honest.
I consider those abortionists who claim "freedom of religion" are simply dishonest. A promiscuous lifestyle is a religion. In the OT the priests of Baal and the priests of Molech were the ones that did the abortions. I interpret Baal to indicate the worship of your career and Molech to be the worship of fornication. Therefore legalizing abortion is the establishment of these religions and is prohibited by the constitution. The federal government has violated their jurisdiction when the Supreme court made this ruling.
Everyone lives their life in a way that values certain things and that can be seen as the things they worship and sacrifice for. If you claim my worship of God violates the freedoms given to you by the constitution the remedy is not to allow your worship of your career or fornication to violate my freedoms.
So then, "freedom of religion" indicates that our constitution provides an opportunity for everyone to be a citizen regardless of their religion, to practice that religion, speak about that, worship, meet, etc. Likewise they can vote. It doesn't mean that our govt is anti religion, or atheistic, nor does it mean that those who are elected have to deny or hide their religion.
The Federal govt has no right to establish a religion, and that is what legalizing abortion does. Instead this matter should be decided by each and every state.
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This is basically the argument of Francis Schaeffer that secular humanism is religion. As you have framed it, it's an argument against the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and as such an argument against religious freedom. Perhaps it's impossible to be a Christian partisan and a small d democrat at the same time. If this is the way Christians think their only limits will be scriptural supports for subjection to authority or and the rule of law. Pluralism will always be an affront to the absolute truth they believe that only they possess.