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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Well, now that wasn't so hard was it, Mr. E.? Of course you're still avoiding and evading. That may work with "new ones" who don't know what is really taught and really practiced in the Local Church of Witness Lee. Not going to work here.
I'm trying (without much success it seems) to get you to be straightforward. I know that's hard for Local Churchers...but I know you can do it bro! I know you read English. I know you understand the questions. I just can't quite figure out if you are trying to be cute or what.
So I have the choice to choose my own oracle? Are they an oracle like Witness Lee or are they an illegitimate oracle? Are they actually speaking for God, or was Witness Lee the only person speaking as God's oracle? So I can choose to go to a non Local Church of Witness Lee in a particular city, but it's not a legitimate church? The speaking I hear at this church is not legitimate speaking? WHY IS THE CHURCH I GO TO NOT LEGITIMATE? WHY IS THE SPEAKING NOT LEGITIMATE. Please be straightforward and answer these questions.
I don't care if your answer is short, medium or long. What I do care is that you actually answer the question. My questions are not rhetorical or theoretical. They are very genuine and very straightforward. Please respect them as such.
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Firstly, the legitimacy of a church and legitimacy of the speaking are two separate matters so I will address them one by one.
We can choose who we believe is God's oracle. Whether they are or not in reality is a different matter - God's oracle is anyone who speaks for God. If someone prophesies then they are God's oracle in essence.
The legitimacy of a church would depend on whether it is a genuine local church in the city or a sect in reality. So if your church is a sect then it is not really legitimate. But if you believe that your church is not a sect and a genuine church that is your free will to believe that.
Legitimacy of the speaking depends on whether it is speaking for and forth God, or not. If they are not speaking for and forth God they aren't legitimate. Now I could give many examples here from word/faith prosperity teaching that speak forth riches and fortune than God.
There could be someone who is God's oracle speaking in a sect. Maybe you believe that person is God's oracle, maybe they are speaking for and forth God. On the other hand someone may be speaking in the local church who is not God's oracle because they are not speaking for and forth God.
As an example, Madam Guyon comes to mind. Maybe she was God's oracle but she was in the Catholic church. A legitimate speaker in an illegitimate church. Maybe a person would reject Catholicism but attend a Catholic gathering just to hear her speak.
As another example, sometimes in the recovery people do not speak for the Lord. They speak other things - this would be an example of illegitimate speaking.
I hope that answers your questions.