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Old 10-01-2018, 12:28 PM   #4341
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Politics and the Church

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Originally Posted by Ohio View Post
Rejecting Kavanaugh has everything to do with abortion -- numerous from the left have told us this exactly.



First, I did hear questions by Sen. Whitehouse and others about specific calendar dates, notably July 1, 1982. Kavanaugh did say he never blacked out, but did fall asleep.

Secondly, there is no way to have a decent "trial" unless they actually were brought to trial, with evidence examined, witnesses questioned and cross-examined, etc.

If all it takes to convict people is to examine teenage drinking, we would have no unsolved crimes. I am as guilty as the next guy, definitely moreso than Kavanaugh. By this flawed logic, I could be "convicted" of murder, rape, conspiracy, every crime in the book. There is no way on earth I could go back to every day of my life and "prove" I was perfectly innocent. By that standard, I could not even "prove" my innocence for last week.

Regarding Ford's claims, there are up to 5 witnesses who supposedly were there who refute her claims. How many witnesses does one need? Look at how vulnerable you also are ZNP? What if some former HS classmate was in marital counseling because she wanted "two front doors" on her house. Using questionable memory devices, suddenly her political therapist helps her to "remember" that her life-long problems were all due to inappropriate contact with some ZNP guy decades ago. Enter WaPo with a wealthy owner hell-bent on destroying friends of Trump, and now your employer has serious misgivings about you interfacing with students.

If every "female survivor" must automatically be believed, then God save our country.
I am not one of the senators voting. So in my opinion it will really depend on the three that are potential swing votes. Those three are not going to reject Kavanaugh because of abortion. Perhaps this can act as cover to allow them to reject him, avoiding a contentious vote. But Trump can still nominate the next potential candidate. That candidate could be equally pro life, so again, this is not about abortion the Democratic party that will come out.

No doubt much of the protests from the minority are about abortion, but unless you subscribe to the idea that this is a big conspiracy from the left then there is no basis for that. If you do subscribe to that then it should come out in an FBI investigation. It is extremely difficult to hide a conspiracy from experienced investigators who are focusing in on just that. for example, it is highly unlikely Dr. Ford conspired with the Left without leaving a huge paper trail of emails, text messages and phone calls. I would expect the FBI to go through all of her emails, texts and phone calls. If they found connection to pro choice activists and
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