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Originally Posted by SAAggie
I meet because I enjoy being with the saints I'm connected to, if that makes sense. I have fellowship with them and we can pray about our situations and just enjoy the Lord. There are even some that have left the LC's I try to stay in contact with that were true friends and brothers and still are as far as I'm concerned , but if the elders in this locality find out I've talked to them, they would consider me poisoned.
Also I have no issue with the ministry, preachers have their ministry, that's how it is. I have issue with putting the ministry before Christ or equating it to the WORD.
We've been meeting for several year and my wife was a "Church Kid" from the 70's/80's (the Lord somehow preserved her since so many in that age group were lost). My kids grew up as "Church Kids", but for some reason the Full Timers think the college aged "Church Kids" are self sufficient, which is totally not true.
I'm fine with students coming to my home, I'm fine with working saints coming to my home - it's the elitist Full Timers that I have the biggest issue with. When we first started meeting - I was older than a "normal piece of fruit" so it wasn't like I was high maintenance either, but I was talking with the Full Timer that was assigned to the home meeting we were with at the time and he told me "I can't pray with you, you'll need to find one of the older brother to pray with". My thought was "Really?! You come to my house, you eat my food, you don't clean up after yourselves, and you can't pray with me?" Anyway I ended up being knitted with some older brothers which worked out fine, but after that situation with the FT'r, I've shied away from any fellowship with Full Timers, nor do I trust them (not sure what they put in the kool-aid at the FTTA...)
Not sure if any of this make sense, but it boils down to the cast system - FT'rs are the higher cast - the working folks are the schlubs and who's purpose is to serve the FT'rs, because we can only be useful to the Lord in that way since we didn't go to the training(so says the FT'r edict).
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Makes a lot of sense,
SAAggie!
Your comments reminded me of the "early days" when Lee would constantly condemn Christian seminaries as "cemeteries." Then he started his own "cemeteries" called Full-Time-Trainings. It was always "Bad-when-they-do-it but Good-when-we-do-it" hypocrisy that required a light from heaven to see through. Or talk to an ex-member and get "poisoned" via a few historical facts about LSM.
The LC movement is rotting from within, from within the hollowed training centers at LSM. You are so right about the
Full-Timer Caste System. This really took off in the mid-80's in Taipei during the so-called "New Way." Lee constantly extolled his young "Blue Jacket" trainees, and regularly trashed LC elders. Some have said that his tactics were taken from Mao's playbook. Brothers would advance in the system just by their zeal for Lee and his ministry.
The Apostle Paul called these ones, "false brothers, dogs, and evil workers."