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Originally Posted by Drake
Christ is the new man!
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
So... yes... we have still have a soul but the life we live is Christ's life and Christ Himself. The new man has replaced the old man, the self. There is a new sheriff in town so to speak.
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I knew you were going to say that...
But, see that doesn't really work. Because in reality there is still a you. There is still the "nevertheless I live" part.
If you take that Christ is the new man too far then, how to account for the fact that Drake is still here, too? Is your personality just an illusion? Like I said, we don't vanish, we still exist. So "not I, but Christ" just means that Christ now is our spiritual center.
Doctrine has to hold up to experience. Just saying "Christ is the new man" doesn't account for the fact their is still an us. And that us, whatever it is, is our new self, in him. This cannot be denied. If Christ died for "us" and now the "us" is him what happened to "us?" So don't take that one verse too far! You know you are still here, and we surely know it. Your personality is as big as Harry Mudd's!
The whole "we are Christ" is somewhat metaphorical. I don't buy Lee's literal interpretation of it. It just doesn't match my experience and doesn't add up. Please bring something to the table besides Lee. He doesn't trump everything.
Are you sure your mantra is "Not I, but Christ?" It sure seems it's "Not I, but Lee." Because you act like his word trumps everything else. See, while you've accepted Lee's supremacy as a given and his teachings at face value, I've actually been studying lots of sources and considering and asking God to reveal the truth on these matters to me. And what I've gotten from God doesn't match Lee. Sorry. If you can't show that you've followed anything but Lee, then I can't think you've really put much thought into these ideas at all.