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Originally Posted by Ohio
Brother Trapped, you really need to change your name!
This is one of the clearest rebuttals I have read. If your mind is this free, then you are no longer "trapped," but the Lord's "Freedman." (I Cor. 7.22)
In regard to Luke 14.26, if LC teachers can so quickly exhort their members to "hate father and mother ...," what does that say about our relationship with some book publisher in Anaheim? What about, "If you cannot hate LSM, you cannot be My disciple?" Concerning these Blendeds, and their sycophants, never forget Paul's exhortation, "You were bought with a price, never become slaves of men." (I Cor 7.23)
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Hahaha.....thanks. Oftentimes Drake's posts so succinctly bring together the being-crushing lies that were passed off as truths to so many people that it is a delight to post a response to force me to get my own thoughts in order about a particular false neutron-star-heavy jet-black tar baby that has been clinging onto me for so long.
I wish I had found this forum earlier so I could have had the tools and utterance to help another adult church kid I encountered years ago. They were struggling with self-esteem issues (possibly typical human ones unrelated to the LC, possibly LC-based, I don't know) and going to LC meetings was an almost impossible demand on them since being told that the Lord can barely tolerate us because of how horrible we are made them feel 20000 times worse than they felt in just a typical day of life. To feel that God is repulsed by you left them absolutely nowhere good to go, in every way, and they used all kinds of destructive things to try to run from their torment.
Strangely enough, and maybe more tragically enough, in my own life I still operate according to the opposite belief of much of what I wrote......so "Trapped" will have to remain, in order to be truthful. In other words, I'm still newly and continually coming across things, concepts, and thoughts I didn't know I had and I didn't know were trapping me. So while I can put together a post I am happy with, there is still the time - weeks, months, maybe more - needed to wash off of the dirt of those lies that just doesn't disappear with the snap of a finger. Maybe "my chains fell off" is some people's experience, but for me it's like I've been given bolt cutters and I'm having to snip each link off one by one. But Freedman is a great idea for what I have a little hope is coming down the road at some point.
The other point I just thought of now is that in 1 Corinthians 12, talking about giving more abundant honor to the uncomely members...... Well, one thing I noticed is that there is no definition of comely or uncomely in those verses, so how do we know who is comely or not? If I'm sitting in a meeting I sure know who
I think is uncomely.....but my own opinion certainly isn't the standard for determining that. This is my own interpretation, but I think it's because each of us is comely to some people and uncomely to others. And this way, all of us, being uncomely to at least someone, can be recipients of more abundant honor in the Body. While this doesn't speak to loving ourselves directly, it speaks to the value each one of us has and the care we are worth receiving. (Again, worth just according to the "ought" level.....not elevated worth).