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Old 05-31-2020, 07:02 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
Well, to start, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus became the Holy Spirit,
Of course it doesn't. That would be modalism, and the Bible doesn't teach modalism!

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and neither did WL say that either...
Oh, he most certainly did. Here are just a few I conjured up in just a minute or two.

"The Son is the Father, and the Son is also the Spirit... and the Lord Jesus who is the Son is also the Eternal Father. Our Lord is the Son, and He is also the Father."
Witness Lee, Concerning the Triune God
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1973)

"Through the process of resurrection, the Man who ended the old creation became the life-giving Spirit, the germinating element of the new creation."
Life Study of 1 Corinthians

"When He entered into resurrection, He became the Spirit who gives life"
Life Study of 1 Corinthians

"The Father, the Son, and the Spirit are not three separate persons or three Gods; they are one God, one reality, one person."
Witness Lee, The Triune God to Be Life to the Tripartite Man
(Anaheim: Living Stream Ministry, 1970)

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1 Cor 15:45 is just one verse that points to a very important truth covered by many other verses. One way to summarize it is that the resurrected Jesus is very different than the Jesus before resurrection. Something happened to Him through death and resurrection that changed Him, it changed His "form" if you will, for a lack of a better word.
Ok, this is your interpretation of Witness Lee's interpretation. That's nice, but you're not really addressing the matter at hand. Witness Lee clearly and strongly taught that Jesus Christ, the 2nd Person of the Trinity, BECAME the Holy Spirit, the 3rd Person of the Trinity. The rest of your post, while giving a very good interpretation of Lee's teachings, totally skirts the issue at hand. Here's the issue at hand, Raptor:
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Originally Posted by HBJ View Post
Now I did hear Brother Lee say "Jesus became the life - giving Spirit"
Yeah, I heard that too, HBJ. I heard it so many times that I believed it with all my heart and mind. Look, I attended hundreds upon hundreds of training and conference meetings where I heard Witness Lee speak, in person, unfiltered and unedited by Ron Kangas. I know what the man taught. To my knowledge, he never repudiated this false teaching, and neither has the current leadership of the Local Church.

Yes Raptor, something did happen to the Lord Jesus through death and resurrection that changed Him, and if you read 1 Corinthians chapter 15 carefully, the apostle Paul clearly states that upon our resurrection, the very same change will take place with our physical bodies. The Lord Jesus' physical body was changed into a glorified, "spiritual body" (πνευματικός σῶμα) Vs 44. The apostle was not teaching that the Lord Jesus became the Holy Spirit, and no reputable, commonly accepted, orthodox Christian teacher, scholar or apologist, throughout the church history, has ever taught that the Lord Jesus became the Holy Spirit.

The rest of your post, while delivered with great precision and passion, is a vain attempt to use biblical terms and language to confirm an unbiblical teaching. There is one God. There is only one Father. There is only one Son. There is only one Spirit. There is only one God, and this God is seeking those that will worship him in spirit and in truth.

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