[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Why don't we have an honest and sober discussion about Paul's incredibly imprecise and inconsistent language concerning God?

So you want to compare and contract the greatest Christian theologian in history with Witness Lee? You must be joking, right? The teachings of the apostle Paul and the other NT writers are the standard, and all others are to be compared and contrasted against their writings, not the other way around. Lee's teachings have been compared and contrasted with the teachings of the scripture writing apostles and have been found wanting big time, to say the least.

But let's be honest folks. WL is only a modified modalist when compared to the so-called historic definition of "3 Persons in One God."

Ok, so you don't want to judge Witness Lee's teachings against those taught by orthodox Christians for about 2,000 years? What standard do you want to use? If you say you want to judge them against the Bible, that's fine, but you are then left to claim that everybody else got it wrong for all these centuries and he's the only one that got it right. How convenient. How improbable.

Now regarding "stages" and "steps," I need to see some context.

Well, I must tell you that in my view there is NO CONTEXT in which these words could be applied and not be considered as some form of modalism. Again, we're getting into the matter of being theologically accurate and precise.

But there have been numerous posters on this forum that deny the virgin birth, and others who deny that the baby born to Mary was even deity. Some deny God Himself, either One Person or 3 Persons.

What does any of this have anything to do with modalism?
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