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Originally Posted by Ohio
Pretty crazy universe we have here with a cute little lanb sitting on the throne, eh?
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Ohio, you read Rev7 through the lens of 21st century Christianity and thus miss what is stated.
9After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands; 10and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb.
John was writing this in the 1st century, not filled with the same taint. The chapter includes quite a few ANDs to differentiate between God and the Lamb. You are obviously filled with a trinitarian view that did not exist at the time of John. A person reading this at that time would have the distinction between God and the Lamb. Paul prayed quite profoundly in Ephesians that the believers would see what God did in raising Christ from the dead and giving him this great position. Jesus speaks about this in Rev. 3 to the overcomers in the church in Laodicea: He that overcometh, I will give to him to sit down with me in my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father in his throne. 22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.
A real recovery of the church would have included the ministry to bring our thinking back to that of the foundational church. Unfortunately, although the concept of the local church was brought out adequately, WLs ministry did not bring us back to a foundational understanding. Have you not noticed how much of the content of the LC discussion centers around the whole trinity thing? Yet here in Rev 7 there is no triune God mentioned and no concept of a triune god given. Even you must wonder what is the game that is going on- a 4th century man made god replacing that which the scripture portrays, and people reading the scripture now a days trying to fit it into a modern day unscriptural view. Time to recover the church to the concept given of Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus, and the oneness of the Spirit where we profess one God, the Father. You are kicking not against me, but against the goads of truth and revelation. I am glad to see you are at least reading the scripture. Have you gone through the book of Acts yet and observed the gospels presented, which were foundational in bringing about the believer and the church? FOUNDATIONAL