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As an afterthought to my last: my observation is that modern, prevailing Christianity is totally caught up in a Jesus is God mentality. And, surprisingly, the ones that give the most, clear acknowledgement to God the Father are the old traditional RC, Lutheran denominations. Modern, pastoral business model assemblies seem to be the most biggest purveyors of a Jesus is God mentality. The old creeds start with a I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth statement, which the old denominations acknowledge. New Christianity seems to hold a God became a man, God died on the cross, Jesus died on the cross that was his own creation- the scripture is totally muddled and the participants seem oblivious.