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Old 07-20-2020, 09:26 AM   #161
Boxjobox
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Default Re: Boxjobox on modalism

Trinitarianism is much like the theory of evolution. You have this scientific theory on where man came from, and the thought is that man evolved from lower species. The problem with that theory ( at least to me, I’m sure the students of that theory would disagree) is the “gap” between, to simplify it, between ape and man. So people are always looking for evidence to fill in the gap; a bit over here, a clue over there, a twist back there etc. But we’re is the overwhelming continuity of factual evidence- there should be realms of fossils to fill that gap.
So here we have the trinitarian theory. But stuck in plain view is the apostle Paul stating there is but one God, the Father- a most difficult, clear statement to ignore! But if we look over there, and mix what we find over here and twist this and that, voilą, we have gap filled. But where is the overwhelming evidence in scripture that God wished to present Himself to us as a triune being. Where is the overwhelming teaching that we are to put up Jesus as our God? Sorry, it’s not there. What is overwhelmingly there is Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ- overwhelmingly there!
Consider Ephesians- either it is a false book, leading us astray, or it is the teaching of Paul on the Christian experience, that in no way includes a triune god nor a Jesus is God view. Paul in that great epistle prays in no uncertain way that the believers would see and live according to the revelation of who God is and what He has done in bringing us to Himself in Christ. God is so portrayed in Ephesians as our dear Father, who planned, purposed and is fulfilling His purpose in us through Christ. He clearly explains the position Christ has been given, and we in Christ. And in keeping this revelation, in living it, Paul clearly says it involves One God and Father- not three, not two, but one. Either this is false and misleading, or it is the most important revelation we as Christians should live by.
God is God, Jesus is the Christ, the son of the Living God. Why not accept it and live by this. Why live in trinityland spending all the time looking for gap clues, and arguing and dividing over that which is not overwhelmingly given in the scripture? After all, this is the revelation the church is to be built on. WL did not recover the Church because his ministry was stuck in a warped 4th century nonscriptural unworkable theory. A true ministry that would bring about a recovered church would be one that mirrors the ministry of Paul as found clearly in Ephesians.
Untohim is stuck trying to decent an orthodoxy that brought about church failure.

I got this e-mail the other day that said- referring to the covid thing and the closing down of churches here in California. Continue Worshipping Jesus. I had to wonder, what does this mean? how does one worship Jesus? Where is the Blessed be the God and Father, the Unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the ONLY wise God? We need a recovery of the Church, the house of the living God!
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