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Trapped · 11-08-2020, 06:57 PM

I believe there are probably on the order of 60-ish "co-workers" (give or take). They know who they are. It is the height of absurdity that they would all band together in agreement to publicly hide their names. This alone should send a stir through anyone reading, and tell us all that these are not genuine "apostles".

About the sidebar quote:

From the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery in North America
The Ongoing Relationship Between the Apostles and the Local Churches
"Whether a full-time co-worker can be an apostle depends solely on whether or not he has the ability to lead the churches. If he is not capable of leading the churches in an overall manner, he is only a full-timer who participates in the work; he is not qualified to stand in the position of an apostle. This kind of full-timer has a share in the work, but he should not intervene to touch the elders in the affairs of a local church, as an apostle does." (Collected Works of Witness Lee, 1965, vol. 4, 190).

"Ability to lead"? That's the SOLE thing? No other qualifications? No other contingencies?

Ability to lead means they can lead the churches......but right to hell. Ability to lead means there are numerous other critical character traits that are not a factor.

And hang on, I thought there are "no positions" but only "functions"? What is this "position of an apostle" stuff?

Also, Witness Lee pretty obviously thought of himself as the MOTA too. It's not just the co-workers who started calling him a MOTA. Lee steps onto the pedestal of MOTA-hood of his own accord in "The Vision of the Age".

11-08-2020, 06:57 PM	#290
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Shepherding Words "From The Co-Workers In The Lord's Recovery" I believe there are probably on the order of 60-ish "co-workers" (give or take). They know who they are. It is the height of absurdity that they would all band together in agreement to publicly hide their names. This alone should send a stir through anyone reading, and tell us all that these are not genuine "apostles". About the sidebar quote: From the co-workers in the Lord’s recovery in North America The Ongoing Relationship Between the Apostles and the Local Churches "Whether a full-time co-worker can be an apostle depends solely on whether or not he has the ability to lead the churches. If he is not capable of leading the churches in an overall manner, he is only a full-timer who participates in the work; he is not qualified to stand in the position of an apostle. This kind of full-timer has a share in the work, but he should not intervene to touch the elders in the affairs of a local church, as an apostle does." (Collected Works of Witness Lee, 1965, vol. 4, 190). "Ability to lead"? That's the SOLE thing? No other qualifications? No other contingencies? Ability to lead means they can lead the churches......but right to hell. Ability to lead means there are numerous other critical character traits that are not a factor. And hang on, I thought there are "no positions" but only "functions"? What is this "position of an apostle" stuff? Also, Witness Lee pretty obviously thought of himself as the MOTA too. It's not just the co-workers who started calling him a MOTA. Lee steps onto the pedestal of MOTA-hood of his own accord in "The Vision of the Age".