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Originally Posted by Trapped
When BJB says "Jesus is not God" and when Ohio and Unto say "Jesus IS God"......I'm serious here.....what does each of you mean by "God"?
When there is "one God, the Father" and we say "Jesus is God but not God the Father".....what do we actually mean by that last sentence? What does "God" mean to you there?
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There are several lines of thought which are commonly used to perpetrate the notion that "Jesus is not God." Yes, Jesus does say that "
the Father is greater than I," and does, as a man on earth, pray to the Father. Jesus regularly points all men to believe God, fear God, honor God, obey God, worship God, pray to God, etc. referring to His and our heavenly Father.
The normal and natural "assumption" when reading all these verses is to "assume" that Jesus is not God. But where does the scripture say that anywhere? And, we all know that the Bible is filled with verses that warn us not to worship man, not to worship idols, not to worship creatures, not to worship creation, not to worship angels, not to worship celestial bodies, etc.
Yet Jesus Christ, even as a newborn babe in Bethlehem, was worshiped! He was worshiped throughout his ministry, before and after His death, and now still, more than ever, is worshiped in the heavens.
How can any of us stomach such an egregious contradiction? ONLY GOD SHALL EVER BE WORSHIPED BY HIS PEOPLE, and yet there is never a verse in scripture to condemn, dissuade, or correct the worship of Jesus! How can we conclude anything else but that
both the Father and the Son are God. To believe in one is to believe in the other. To worship one is to worship the other. To love one is to love the other. Jesus summed it all up prior to the cross saying, "
believe in God, believe also in Me."
We just cannot use faulty human logic to conclude, along with Boxjobox, that Jesus is not God, based on several erroneous assumptions.