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Originally Posted by OBW
if the details are brought out on their own, they will shine as nails to be driven into the coffin of Lee's teaching. Forget the coffin. Focus on the nails..
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This is always a good point to remember. And even though it seems that you leave them suspended in space, they are not.
For example: "intensification" as part of God's economy. I keep asking, Where do we see intensification in Paul's epistles? If we don't see him teaching it, why can we say that he asked Timothy to remain behind in Ephesus and teach it?
Here is Paul on degradation, which was assumed the necessity for WL's "intensification" teaching --- "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." ~2 Tim 4:3.
Paul may suggest degradation, but where does Paul teach intensification? Where are the Seven Spirits in the writing of Paul? Or, where does John on Patmos say, "These Seven Spirits are the 'intensification' part of the 'God's economy' taught by Paul"? Until someone at LSM answers this, it remains a shiny nail. I don't even have to indict them, with their own words they indict themselves.
Or, where is Paul (or anyone in the NT) seen regarding OT scripture as "natural" or "mixed sentiments" or "human concepts"? If the NT writer doesn't ever call the OT by these pejoratives, when why should any student of the NT ever do this?
Or, why call some Psalms of imprecation "natural concepts" because they lack charity, yet other similar psalm-writings are held as types of Christ defeating Satan? Where's the explanation showing how it means one thing one place and something else later? And, how could a Bible expositor give such questionable teachings repeatedly in front of thousands, and yet nobody questioned it? Until LSM satisfactorily addresses these questions, they remain bright shiny nails.
I agree with OBW on this - if you want to be effective, be succinct, and let the point suggest itself from the contents. And even if these questions are left unanswered, seeming to be hanging in virtual space, they've done their job. Matthew 22:46 "No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions." Just keep asking the questions, many of them obvious in retrospect, that nobody has yet dared to ask. And until someone answers them, they remain bright shiny nails.