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Old 03-07-2016, 06:44 AM   #4
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Default Re: The History of Philip Lee

Also, the thread in question has a number of comments on Chinese culture as it played out in the dynamics of Philip Lee and his father, and the churches serving under PL. Here is a representative quote from 2007, (post #52):

About ten years ago it was my personal revelation that many of the things I had taken from WL and others in the "church life" as kingdom culture was merely Chinese culture. In my analysis, some of what had gone wrong in the church life was a repeat of 18th/19th century missionary work: cultural imperialism. And it was quite ironic, to me, to think that it was the Americans who were being forced to adapt to an invading culture.

I recall going to Anaheim to a training - the door-knocking training as a matter of fact -- and losing my badge while pounding the pavement. When I went to the evening meeting, I was forced to stand in line and wait until my turn to meet with a stern, suspicious, guardian of the gate who issued me a "visitor's badge" then later led us pathetic miscreants in a herd into the meeting late. It would have been humiliating had it not been so absurd. It just made me mad. I know one thing for sure, this type of thing would not have happened in an American seminar of any kind.

At that point in my church experience I was beginning to realize that maybe some of the instinctive criticisms I had of the "recovery" were not merely my fallen nature reacting to God's way, but my fallen nature reacting to other fallen natures, if you get my drift. The sad thing is that the ones who made it through all the ebbs and flows of the church life got something valuable of their American culture beaten out of them. We became something weird, something the world around us wasn't attracted to.
Lee wanted us to be a 'peculiar people', but instead "we became something weird, something the world around us wasn't attracted to". Amen to that. Been there.

And the points about cultural imperialism, and submitting our fallen culture to another fallen culture, (or conversely resisting it), all in the name of a supposedly higher good, agree with what I've been writing on this forum, now nine years later. It's worth repeating.
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