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Old 03-18-2020, 06:02 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Boxjobox View Post
Bro Manna-man. The big E was in the time of the Old Covenant.
Jesus-not me, but Jesus through the writing recorded by the apostle John said And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” This He said, signifying by what death He would die

Seems to me that Jesus was talking NT things. And then our beloved apostle by the will of God- Paul tells Tim s 1Tim 4.10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. 11These things command and teach

All and especially, these things command and teach.

E was talking to Israel concerning their keeping the OldCovenant. Jesus, John, Paul talking about the New Covenant to all.
Dear brother BJB,

"Ezekiel 18 King James Version (KJV)
18 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying,"

4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

E starts out declaring a word from the Lord.

Is E a liar?

The full gospel is the Old and New Testament for scriptures declare that God foreknew and predestined.

I want to believe that ALL will be saved but this type of thinking doesn't jive with the whole of the scriptures and all of the warnings. For if all will be saved then why the warnings? Why the metaphor of the sheep and the hirelings? or the wheat and the tares or the leaven?

Through the scriptures we are encouraged that God doesn't change.

You said that E was quoting the Old Testament.

He was quoting The Word Of The Lord. Otherwise his testimony was meaningless which is just plain not the case.
If that were the case,
The same could be said of Isaiah 9:6.
Zechariah 4:6
John 3:16

If that were the case, we could say that the gospel was as silly as a recent Liberty Mutual commercial where the guy pulls parallel to another car on the highway and yells out give me your hand I can save you! He hands one of the women in the car a card with contact info and then they find themselves stopped at a red light in a silly awkward moment because there's nothing more to say.

The Gospel might put us in an akward position but it is far from silly and it's message is complete. Here's a link to the silly commercial that is great for a good laugh.

Proverbs 15:22 Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellers they are established.
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