The "Lord's Recovery": A Christian Perspective

[NeitherFirstnorLast]

Hello MacDuff!

Just wanted to address some of your comments here:

Originally Posted by MacDuff

He seems to be judging the whole LC by responses that may not be so typical of the LC itself... This guy he says responded to him, and he calls it hate mail, I hope isn’t typical LC, whatever country he was from. When I visited the LC a few months ago, in LA CA USA, I met no one like this individual. If they disagreed with what you said, or if you brought up something they could take as opposition, they would just say “Oh Lord Jesus” and the discussion on that particular topic ended. And we would just go on discussing something we agreed upon. Nothing like what this guy was spouting.

I don't know - I mean, I don't know if this fellow who addressed Doug is really so atypical of an LSM LCer. I agree, there is a lot of "Oh Lord Jesus" if you try to bring up a topic that is controversial with them in person, but from what I've read on the web, there is a good number of LSM responders out there who aren't ashamed to put "pen to paper" as it were, and let their detractors have it with both barrels... and why shouldn't they? They see their current leadership (Blendeds) do it, and they in turn learned it from Witness Lee himself.

I've noticed that many of the posters here have much deeper roots and longer (or just older) histories with the LC than I do. I may be wrong, but I think I am one of the most recent ex-LSM members on here (having only met with the LC around 2008 until early 2011.) The LC as I know it is not the LC as most folks around here knew it back in the day.... And again, why should it be? Witness Lee specifically, and the organization on Ball Road after him, worked hard to really "condense" (is that the right word?) the membership - squeeze out the marginal members, the members who might question Lee's authority or the authority of those whom he later appointed, and then too they shifted focus from gaining new ones (which, I believe, was/is becoming ever harder and harder for them) to instead focusing their efforts on a more captive audience: The children of current members. Those children get spoon-fed Witness Lee's theology to the exclusion of all else - there is no taste of anything different whatsoever, so who are they to question what they hear? As for the current members who hung on through all the turmoils and strife, I would say that they HAD to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to things they didn't want to hear ( - bravely run away screaming "Oh Lord JESUS!!") - and all that does is harden your heart. I said that I myself quenched the Spirit many times, not wanting to believe that the people I had grown to love with the love of Christ could really be so far off the mark - and I think after a few months I could barely even hear Him anymore. It took Him shaking me up and moving me to a new "locality" to really rock my boat and get me looking around again. Praise the Lord for a sister who was very - 'strong willed' maybe let's say. She exemplified the type of response that Doug's video met here... and she was/is sold out (souled out?) for LSM.

Originally Posted by MacDuff

I have to say that I feel very blessed to have experienced in Elden Hall back in the 70’s, none of this kind of sick bias. Reminds me of Christians who call homosexuals faggots and are nothing but derogatory against them. The sin of homosexuality is no different than the sin of any Christian and such Christians act as if they are perfect and without sin. I’ve met “sinless” Christians and I have nothing to do with them out here in real life. Because I can easily discern that one of their most obvious sins is that they are lying to themselves.

Amen to that, brother. There is not one righteous; no: not one. That's why we all need Him, and not just once but every day.

Ray