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Old 11-04-2014, 06:48 PM   #1
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I was concerned about raising my children in that environment.
My sentiment also. At the grade school level, not a problem. It was when my children reached junior high, (having witnessed bizarre and reactive behavior at YP Conferences I had attended as a teen), I wanted to shield my children from similar experiences.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:53 PM   #2
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My sentiment also. At the grade school level, not a problem. It was when my children reached junior high, (having witnessed bizarre and reactive behavior at YP Conferences I had attended as a teen), I wanted to shield my children from similar experiences.
You have an interesting background since you grew up in that environment. An interesting story recognizing that maybe your children should not follow the same steps. It is courageous that you were willing to make that change for your children.
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Old 11-05-2014, 11:50 AM   #3
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My sentiment also. At the grade school level, not a problem. It was when my children reached junior high, (having witnessed bizarre and reactive behavior at YP Conferences I had attended as a teen), I wanted to shield my children from similar experiences.
In particular I know serving brothers and sisters mean well. Maybe there is a misplaced zeal concerning deputy/delegated authority and how to handle/interact with young people. Though teens may not respond, at least with my teen children they are observant.
What I witnessed at a Young People's Conference I was at, during a free time in the afternoon being with young brothers from my locality. One of them was talking to a young sister from another locality with her peers. A serving brother comes running over towards us speaking a rebuking word about brothers and sisters speaking to each other. I thought this was quite bizarre behavior reacting to the group of young people.
I want my children to be able to speak to peers of the opposite gender without feeling they're committing a gross sin.
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:00 PM   #4
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In particular I know serving brothers and sisters mean well. Maybe there is a misplaced zeal concerning deputy/delegated authority and how to handle/interact with young people. Though teens may not respond, at least with my teen children they are observant.
What I witnessed at a Young People's Conference I was at, during a free time in the afternoon being with young brothers from my locality. One of them was talking to a young sister from another locality with her peers. A serving brother comes running over towards us speaking a rebuking word about brothers and sisters speaking to each other. I thought this was quite bizarre behavior reacting to the group of young people.
I want my children to be able to speak to peers of the opposite gender without feeling they're committing a gross sin.
This why there is a need for mature saints to be around to rebuke the FTT graduate serving ones who are rebuking our young ones. My fear is that the FTT graduates are taking over the churches.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:22 PM   #5
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This why there is a need for mature saints to be around to rebuke the FTT graduate serving ones who are rebuking our young ones. My fear is that the FTT graduates are taking over the churches.
My experience was in 1985/1986 before the full time training came into existence.
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Old 11-05-2014, 04:39 PM   #6
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My experience was in 1985/1986 before the full time training came into existence.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought your testimony was from a recent experience. I think there is probably more interaction between the genders nowadays...at least from what I have observed at conferences.
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:57 PM   #7
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I have never seen physical confrontation in the LC, however, I know all too well that this practice of "berating" people takes place. Most of the berating I have seen has been subtle, with the intention to undermine respect for that person. I can think of a lot of examples, but this video I found a while back sums it up pretty well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUn9sGz8gPE

In the video Lee constantly corrects his translator (James Lee?) over the slightest mistranslations, none of which would change what WL was trying to say. Of course all this is done in the name of "perfecting". What is really going on is WL is sending the clear message that he is the top dog and this brother is his subordinate. Lee even goes as far to call him a "bad translator" and you can hear everyone laugh. I wonder if all meetings with WL were like this? WL certainly knew how to berate people in subtle ways. I'm sure no one sitting there was thinking that he was doing that. Rather they were probably thinking about how WL's translator needs more "perfecting".
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In particular I know serving brothers and sisters mean well. Maybe there is a misplaced zeal concerning deputy/delegated authority and how to handle/interact with young people. Though teens may not respond, at least with my teen children they are observant.
What I witnessed at a Young People's Conference I was at, during a free time in the afternoon being with young brothers from my locality. One of them was talking to a young sister from another locality with her peers. A serving brother comes running over towards us speaking a rebuking word about brothers and sisters speaking to each other. I thought this was quite bizarre behavior reacting to the group of young people.
I want my children to be able to speak to peers of the opposite gender without feeling they're committing a gross sin.
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