Where Has All the Orthopraxy Gone?

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Freedom

I think many in the LC have the impression that LSM is the only publisher of WN works, or at the very least LSM has published all of Nee's works. If I search for "Watchman Nee" on Amazon, many of the results are books from other publishers.

What I find interesting is that I have seen very few people in the LC who have any non-LSM Nee books. Is this just a coincidence? If many of Nee's works have been translated by Kaung then that would explain it. I don't know how things were back in the old days, but it seems that currently a lot of Nee's works are ignored in the LC. I am surprised how much is out there that I have never heard of before.

When I joined the LC around '75, they did carry the CLC (Normal Ch. Life, Sit Walk Stand) and CFP (Kaung) books. But then the word came down that those were "poor translations" and perpetrated by "rebels" or the "unclear" to boot. And that was the end of them in our bookroom.

Lee was nothing if not an information controller. He would have hated the internet.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Igzy

When I joined the LC around '75, they did carry the CLC (Normal Ch. Life, Sit Walk Stand) and CFP (Kaung) books. But then the word came down that those were "poor translations" and perpetrated by "rebels" or the "unclear" to boot. And that was the end of them in our bookroom.

Lee was nothing if not an information controller. He would have hated the internet.

He did. He said it was his greatest source of "persecution." Then he launched a program to buy up web names and instructed us to rack up hits on LC/LSM sites to influence those fledgling search engines.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by Ohio

He did. He said it was his greatest source of "persecution." Then he launched a program to buy up web names and instructed us to rack up hits
on LC/LSM sites to influence those fledgling search engines.

Ohio, I didn't realize the push to buy up lots of domain names came directly from Lee? I remember the push for individual localities to sign up for their "own" websites starting later, maybe around 1999. But maybe it had already been a couple years in the works.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

Ohio, I didn't realize the push to buy up lots of domain names came directly from Lee? I remember the push for individual localities to sign up for their "own" websites starting later, maybe around 1999. But maybe it had already been a couple years in the works.

Obviously the elderly Lee was not the internet mastermind. LSM had staff who were directed to look into these matters.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Obviously the elderly Lee was not the internet mastermind. LSM had staff who were directed to look into these matters.

Their staff don't seem to understand much about how the internet works either, even almost 20 year later here in 2014. Their most obvious misconception is the thought that by ignoring what is said on the internet that it will somehow just go away. Also having a disclaimer on their site along with their copyright that says "Your IP address is __" doesn't make me want to read their books. I can't think of any other site that has such a warning on it.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Freedom

Their staff don't seem to understand much about how the internet works either, even almost 20 year later here in 2014. Their most obvious misconception is the thought that by ignoring what is said on the internet that it will somehow just go away. Also having a disclaimer on their site along with their copyright that says "Your IP address is __" doesn't make me want to read their books. I can't think of any other site that has such a warning on it.

Yeah, what's with that?

Before i left 10 years ago, they were obsessed with search engines only finding them and not the "bad guys." Kind of like every business trying ti coverup all the bad reviews.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by Igzy

When I joined the LC around '75, they did carry the CLC (Normal Ch. Life, Sit Walk Stand) and CFP (Kaung) books. But then the word came down that those were "poor translations" and perpetrated by "rebels" or the "unclear" to boot. And that was the end of them in our bookroom.

Lee was nothing if not an information controller. He would have hated the internet.

As a kid I was told that CFP altered and/or added to Nee's messages to fit their own doctrinal agenda. That was the warning that only LSM's published versions of Nee should be trusted.

Troy Books, on the other hand, has claimed that LSM did the same thing. But I don't know if Troy Brooks is a particularly reliable source...

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

As a kid I was told that CFP altered and/or added to Nee's messages to fit their own doctrinal agenda. That was the warning that only LSM's published versions of Nee should be trusted.

Troy Books, on the other hand, has claimed that LSM did the same thing. But I don't know if Troy Brooks is a particularly reliable source...

Sounds like typical LSM propaganda to me. When those associated with a publication company tell you whose publications to read, it's highly suspect. People should be able to choose for themselves which version they want. It's insulting that they don't think the rank and file member has any "discernment" on what's what. On top of that Nee's ministry is just his ministry. If it weren't for the LC placing such a high emphasis on THE ministry, it wouldn't matter so much how "accurate" Nee's books are in regards to the LC doctrines.

So as Ohio pointed out, Nee's books have come from different sets of handwritten notes, obviously resulting in two different versions of the same book. It kind of brings to mind when I used to go to the semi-annual trainings. No recording devices allowed. No sharing notes. What ridiculous rules. Especially the no sharing notes rule. What do you think we ended up doing in the study sessions? At any rate, by keeping anyone from having the means to give their own account of what was covered in the trainings, LSM enabled itself to produce the official account of their "Crystallization Studies". I'm sure they wish they could have done that for Nee's materials.